Scalia Death Suspicious "We discovered the judge in bed, a pillow over his head."

Has anybody other than Guevera verified that Scalia's personal physician said he had chronic ailments?

If he was so sick, why was he traveling all over the place in recent days?

a reply to: Indigo5

And just how long has the US government been in the business of covering up deaths?

Pretty much a long time. Point of fact it's a master of deception.

It's pretty much even odds the government IS covering something up.

Be it itself knocking Scalia off.

Or covering up Scalia was doing it like they do on the discovery channel with some young hot 'escort'.

Neither one is out of the realm of reason.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: IAMTAT
. . . with a pillow covering his face . . .

Did someone actually state a pillow was "covering" his face?

Is that the same as a pillow "over" his head?

I suppose it depends on what your definition of IS is.

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
It sure does provoke the notion of foul play involved, as 99.5 percent of the population do not sleep with a pillow on top of their head.
And I hope that these rulings are stifled until a new president takes office just to see who begins squirming, and how much.

It does seem odd someone experiencing a heart attack or heart failure would put a pillow over their head considering they would likely be suffering from some degree of shortness of breath.

The cause of death is not heart-attack nor heart failure...

Everything I read said the cause of death was natural or a heart attack. At 79, a heart attack is often described as a natural cause.

Please have patience with my frustration here...but does "everything you read" include this thread?

Because on the page just prior to this one I posted quotes and links..

Guevara also rebutted a report by a Dallas TV station that quoted her as saying that Scalia had died of “myocardial infarction.” In an interview with The Washington Post, she said she meant only that his heart had stopped.

“It wasn’t a heart attack,” Guevara said. “He died of natural causes.”

Scalia's death to be ruled a heart attack

That link is in the thread this one points to. Unless this has changed since yesterday.

From the same source:

Guevara said Scalia went to his doctor for a shoulder injury last week, but the justice also suffered from several chronic ailments.

And when the station ran that inaccurate story she clarified...

Guevara also rebutted a report by a Dallas TV station that quoted her as saying that Scalia had died of “myocardial infarction.” In an interview with The Washington Post, she said she meant only that his heart had stopped.

“It wasn’t a heart attack,” Guevara said. “He died of natural causes.”

Everyone who dies suffers heart failure. What the cause is ...is what the cause of death is.

Yes his heart stopped...no it was not a heart attack.

a reply to: reldra

No, they haven't. What I am saying is that even if the family had said "no autopsy" the JP who pronounced (over the phone mind you) the judge deceased could have ordered an autopsy right that instant regardless of the family's wishes but chose not to.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Indigo5

And just how long has the US government been in the business of covering up deaths?

Pretty much a long time. Point of fact it's a master of deception.

It's pretty much even odds the government IS covering something up.

Be it itself knocking Scalia off.

Or covering up Scalia was doing it like they do on the discovery channel with some young hot 'escort'.

Neither one is out of the realm of reason.

So your factual argument is...The US Government kills people....so...the us government killed Justice Scalia..??

originally posted by: queenofswords
Has anybody other than Guevera verified that Scalia's personal physician said he had chronic ailments?

If he was so sick, why was he traveling all over the place in recent days?

Initially, I read he had just met with his doctor about an old shoulder injury.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: reldra

I probably would've removed the pillow as well...in haste to check on him...as Poindexter states.
That said...discovering a dead, extremely influential elderly man in bed with a pillow covering his face would immediately indicate possible foul play to me. My first thought would be to call police.

If there was a knife sticking out of his chest, would someone's first thought be to remove the knife?

Why not leave the pillow? It's not like an investigation or autopsy was ever going to happen.

The detail about the pillow wasn't just inadvertently provided to the media.

And, of course, that's the circular logic you always run into with these implausible conspiracy theories.

The conspiracy is miraculously airtight but when it's not it's because they're goofing on conspiracy theorists.

With someone this important there should have been an autopsy.

I don't give a rat's behind what the family wanted.

a reply to: SkepticOverlord

I had heard he was found with a pillow covering his head, I know some people who claim to be able to sleep that way I'm not one of those myself,but until more comes out I'm gonna say it looks kinda odd,especially for a 79 year old man to sleep that way.

a reply to: Indigo5

It's pretty much even odds the government IS covering something up.

Actually this was the FACTUAL argument.

Skeptic asked what I thought.

I said what I thought.

Sorry some didn't like what I have to say.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Indigo5

And just how long has the US government been in the business of covering up deaths?

Pretty much a long time. Point of fact it's a master of deception..

Except when they suffocate people and leave the pillow on their head.

originally posted by: queenofswords
Has anybody other than Guevera verified that Scalia's personal physician said he had chronic ailments?

If he was so sick, why was he traveling all over the place in recent days?

He was going to be 80 years old in a month. At some point at that age you decide to either lay down or keep going...justice Scalia was the sort to keep going.

originally posted by: queenofswords
Has anybody other than Guevera verified that Scalia's personal physician said he had chronic ailments?

If he was so sick, why was he traveling all over the place in recent days?

Chronic health issues don't stop you form travelling. It would be silly Guevera to just make this up, the doctor could easily refute it if it were not true.

a reply to: 123143

On this much, we agree entirely.

originally posted by: DelMarvel

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Indigo5

And just how long has the US government been in the business of covering up deaths?

Pretty much a long time. Point of fact it's a master of deception..

Except when they suffocate people and leave the pillow on their head.

They have done much worse.

Be it the Tuskgee experiemtns, or the MK ultra's, and the rest of the crap they have pulled.

I don't know why some think our government is 'above' it.

When they have a long sorted lurid history of out right evilness.

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: 123143

On this much, we agree entirely.

Excellent.

originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: DelMarvel

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Indigo5

And just how long has the US government been in the business of covering up deaths?

Pretty much a long time. Point of fact it's a master of deception..

Except when they suffocate people and leave the pillow on their head.

They have done much worse.

Be it the Tuskgee experiemtns, or the MK ultra's, and the rest of the crap they have pulled.

I don't know why some think our government is 'above' it.

When they have a long sorted lurid history of out right evilness.

Whether the government (generalized to on giant immortal lump of millions of people in various agencies) is "capable" of doing bad things is an entirely different question than did they murder Justice Scalia.

The logic of "the Tuskkgee experiments" happened, thus they killed Justice Scalia...seems silly to me.

originally posted by: 123143
With someone this important there should have been an autopsy.

I don't give a rat's behind what the family wanted.

Ita. When my mother died in Florida nearly 17 years ago, her death was unattended. The family is all up here. They ordered an autopsy and didn't bother to ask me or anyone else in the family, which was fine by me. I would have insisted on one if they didn't.

So why can't they do the same for a key Supreme Court Justice?????

a reply to: neo96

It's true that governments often do despicable things in order to further an agenda, like kill their citizens.

The circumstances surrounding Scalia's passing are grist for the conspiracy theorists and I certainly would never be dismissive of an attempt to find the facts out.

So... give it all you got.