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Scalia Death Suspicious "We discovered the judge in bed, a pillow over his head."

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posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 08:16 AM
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originally posted by: texasgirl
a reply to: MotherMayEye

I guess I'm just wondering if the White House administration could get their hands on his records.

And I'm still bothered by the guest who was possibly there that was more important than Scalia.



I bet they could easily get their hands on his medical records -- authorized or not.




posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 09:51 AM
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Presidio county has been receiving a disproportionately large amount of Federal $$$$, dispite it's almost non-existent crime rate.



Border counties get millions for new equipment to fight crime





EL PASO - Presidio County has never seen the kind of fictional carnage that was filmed there for the movie, "No Country for Old Men." But if it ever does, Sheriff Danny Dominguez now has the gear to fight it, thanks to millions of dollars in state and federal grants for his virtually crime-free turf and that of other sleepy Texas border counties.

The first batch of the $16.2 million awarded, more than $5 million, was given in 2005 to a loose coalition of sheriffs who split the take evenly, regardless of crime rates. The rest was given out in grants to several counties. And several million dollars more are in the pipeline.

Presidio County, whose sheriff and four deputies cover 3,856 square miles of West Texas and protect about 1,000 people, received $336,875 to fight the one crime, an aggravated assault, that occurred in the county in 2006.


But in the Rio Grande Valley's urban Hidalgo County, across the river from the sites of several deadly Mexican shootouts, got about the same amount, spread over three years, for its more than 250 deputies to fight 7,160 violent crimes.

"I expressed my displeasure at the time," Sheriff Lupe Trevino said. "But that's the way it goes. We used the money the best way we could and you do what you have to."

The Associated Press obtained a county-by-county breakdown of the state spending on border crime in response to a Freedom of Information Act request.

According to spending records, several departments, including Presidio County, bought night vision goggles, radar units, and radios, along with heavy duty 4x4 trucks and other off-road vehicles. They put some money in their overtime budgets.

Hudspeth County, with a population of about 3,300 and 41 crimes in 2006, spent $22,300 on a Ford Mustang GT outfitted as a police car.

The sheriffs say they need the money to match the equipment and budgets of larger departments in the state. The state says the money will be used to prevent future crimes, and that even trespassing and vandalism in sleepy counties could be signs of Mexican organized crime seeping across the Rio Grande.

But critics say some of that money was misdirected.

"This shouldn't be border socialism," said Steve Ellis of Taxpayers for Common Sense in Washington. "It has to be based on need."

State Sen. Eliot Shapleigh, an El Paso Democrat and longtime opponent of some of the coalition's security efforts, suggested the money should have a set purpose.

"Let's first find the issue," Shapleigh said. "Here on the front line the issue is violent international gangs, so how best to use state resources and leadership to stop cartels, jail leadership and forfeit assets. The sheriffs' program is a failure. Cartels operate along trade corridors. So resources need to go where cartels do crime."

Dominguez said the money allowed he and his four deputies - who are split into two offices in the county's two towns 50 miles apart - to buy all new equipment.

"We're a very poor county," Dominguez said.

Dominguez said his county's almost non-existent crime statistics don't reflect the need for prevention.



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posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 01:21 PM
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originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: dianajune

originally posted by: nikkib0421
a reply to: dianajune




(c) The department shall require death certificates and fetal death certificates to include the name of the place and the specific number of the plot, crypt, lawn crypt, or niche in which a decedent's remains will be interred or, if the remains will not be interred, the place and manner of other disposition.

www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us...



Death certificates are protected for 25 years. If you live in Texas you can get a copy if you're immediate family. If you're from out of state you must be a spouse, parent or funeral director.

www.dshs.state.tx.us... I order anyone's death certificate online?


I'm wondering if an exception can be made under the circumstances, given that Scalia was a key member of the Supreme Court and all the irregularities in this case. Perhaps the Governor of Texas can order its release?


To be honest, I'm shocked they disclosed the physician letter in its entirety. The Texas Public Info Act states the following are NOT public: "medical records that a physician creates or maintains regarding the identity, diagnosis, evaluation, or treatment of a patient."

I haven't exhaustively finished that Act, but perhaps there is something in it that explains how/why that letter was able to be made public AND would perhaps apply to the death certificate, too.



If there's nothing in the Act about this, it's possible that the family may have authorized the letter's release. However, one would think that if this were the case, we would have been told.

I think that Governor Abbott does have the authority to release the death certificate w/o the family's consent. But I could be wrong. I hope I am right.



posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 01:23 PM
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originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: texasgirl
a reply to: MotherMayEye

I guess I'm just wondering if the White House administration could get their hands on his records.

And I'm still bothered by the guest who was possibly there that was more important than Scalia.



I bet they could easily get their hands on his medical records -- authorized or not.


There's no doubt that the POTUS could get his hands on these records - and even his death certificate - and make them available to the public. Somehow, I doubt he would be willing to do the right thing.

If they want these so-called "conspiracy theories" to go away, they must be transparent. That the powers-that-be have been anything but is very telling.



posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 01:27 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

That's really interesting, IAMTAT. Where do you suppose the money is going?

I know the candidate for sheriff, Melendez, thinks Sheriff Dominguez is corrupt.



posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 01:28 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

A good chunk of that money should be used to fight crimes committed by illegal migrants. But that issue belongs in another thread.

And while they're at it, they should take some of this loot and use it to pay for an independent prosecutor to investigate not only how Scalia died, but how local authorities handled his passing. And its aftermath.

I heard someone on Alex Jones' broadcast say that both a Federal and independent investigations are forthcoming. I hope he was right.

As for Presidio County, I think everyone in authority needs to be booted out of office. I hope the Sheriff loses this election.



posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 01:32 PM
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a reply to: texasgirl

IDK...but since Obama got into office, Presidio county Sheriff's department has been on the federal 'gravy train'; receiving more money than it requires for local law enforcement and than can effectively spend.



posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 01:56 PM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: texasgirl

IDK...but since Obama got into office, Presidio county Sheriff's department has been on the federal 'gravy train'; receiving more money than it requires for local law enforcement and than can effectively spend.


And that raises red flags.

Makes the area perfect for an Obama operation like the Scalia Scandal.

Plenty of deep cover at high levels.




posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 02:07 PM
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One could postulate that Presidio county (along with it's local law enforcement) has been a clandestine, Obama administration-sanctioned, 'Human-Trafficking' corridor.

Other organizations could conceivably be profiting and benefiting their own 'particular' interests, by secretly and jointly sharing in the managing and facilitating of this smuggling corridor.
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posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 02:13 PM
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On a side note:
Congrats on 100 pages and 1988 posts!



posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 02:54 PM
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originally posted by: dianajune
If there's nothing in the Act about this, it's possible that the family may have authorized the letter's release.


This is what I wondered, as well.

It is possible though that there are laws that override the privacy statute because of public interest.



posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 02:58 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

I am particularly interested in the fact that this ranch & county are situated at the border.

Drug & gun smuggling/trading/running are what funds that which the public does not fund and can never, ever know about.

My personal belief is that a faction of rogue U.S. government officials/agencies do, in fact, fund covert operations that are off 'official books' and are not subject to the same transparency laws as official operations.
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posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 06:06 PM
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I want to put this tidbit of information in this thread.

James Comey, the FBI Director, now in charge of Hillary Clinton investigation and, of course, The Clinton Foundation's association with the State Dept. during her tenure was on the short list of Supreme Court nominees when Obama decided on Sotomayor.

Saving James for later?....when the time is right?.....



posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 07:06 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

When tied together with MotherMayEye's post in conjunction with the awareness of Fast & Furious (no, not the movie) certainly would allow for the notion that that some shady snip has been going down in the vicinity.

The Presidio County Sheriff's office has had a bit of corruption problems in the past and it seems as though it has not been entirely dealt with. In fact, it seems to have been given a wink and a nod with the presumption that no one will peer too closely behind the curtains.

 


Sheriff Dominguez's report @ WaPo

911 calls regarding Justice Scalia's death

Make note of the following:


During the first call he has trouble connecting with the operator, and strangely in the second he says he is calling 911 for an issue that is “no longer relevant.”



posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 07:40 PM
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a reply to: jadedANDcynical

Interesting. It makes me wonder if he was dying...not dead when he first tried to call.



posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 08:11 PM
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originally posted by: nikkib0421
a reply to: jadedANDcynical

Interesting. It makes me wonder if he was dying...not dead when he first tried to call.


It could be. Perhaps they were in the process of killing him at that moment.



posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 09:03 PM
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a reply to: jadedANDcynical

That's pretty weird! I wonder if he immediately called 911 (but couldn't get connected) while the manager was feeling for Scalia's pulse or something. Then he realized Scalia was really dead by the time he made a second call? Hence the 'not relevent' comment to 911?

I'm looking at the Sheriff's report and it's full of inconsistencies. He gave the San Antonio US Marshal's number when he was first contacted by Poindexter. Why did Poindexter call again, ask for the sheriff directly, and ask for the US Marshals number again? And why did he want the Marshals from West Texas instead of San Antonio? Does he have connections there?

At 12:50 he advised the agent in charge, Ken Roberts, that he was going to the ranch. But then his report says he arrived at the ranch at 12:35. This was probably a typo and he meant 1:35. But I find it funny that whole scene from Poindexter telling him what happened to investigating the room and then finally calling Cinderela Guevara to pronounce him dead only took 15 minutes. She lied about stating the Marshals assured her there was no foul play before she pronounced him dead. The sheriff report says they didn't arrive until after she made the pronouncement.

And the whole Guevara phone call...When did he actually tell her it was a Supreme Court Judge? He actually didn't know who it was until he arrived at the ranch! Gaaaaa!!

And there's no mention of finding Scalia's cellphone, either.

Read the report carefully and see all the errors I'm talking about. It smells!


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edit on 1-3-2016 by texasgirl because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 1 2016 @ 10:01 PM
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a reply to: texasgirl

Okay, one mystery solved:

We now know it was a San Antonio Fed who tipped off the San Antonio Express news. That was the "Fed source" they were talking about.

So it appears Poindexter did call the San Antonio location.



posted on Mar, 2 2016 @ 06:03 AM
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After reading the sheriff's report it seems that Poindexter did NOT want Dominguez to come to the ranch. The first call he made asking for the US Marshals number he did not state there was a death. It's only after he called back that he told Dominguez there was a death. And he refused to tell him who it was or even that he was a Supreme Court Justice.

When he told Dominguez there was a death on his ranch they argued over who got jurisdiction. Poindexter really did not want him handling the case, saying it was way beyond his authority, but this time sheriff wouldn't give him the phone number for the west Texas branch. He called agent in charge Ken Roberts himself. He advised Roberts to call Poindexter and then to call him back. Did Roberts not call him back? Dominguez called Roberts again. Roberts said he would send his agents to the ranch and sheriff told him he would meet them there. This sheriff was determined to take this case.

When the sheriff arrived he found Scalia in bed with a sheet pulled up to his chin. Why was it pulled all the way up there? Was Poindexter covering up a wound (to the neck, possibly?) Did the sheriff remove the sheet? There are so many strange things in this report. It doesn't say what he did. And the sheets were not creased, as if he had passed away right after going to bed. This is weird to me. It makes me feel that Poindexter and C Allen Foster changed the sheets and placed Scalia back on the bed.

After he called Guevara about Scalia's death and she pronounced him dead at 1:52, the agents arrived shortly afterward at 2:30. (according to the US Marshals spokesman) He talked with Ken Roberts again and Roberts came to the scene. Roberts, after arriving, also called his boss and his boss flew in by helicopter. Why did his boss feel the need to come? I understand this is Justice Scalia we're talking about here, but if he died a peaceful, natural death then was it necessary for Roberts' boss to come, too? This makes me feel something BIGhappened to Scalia. Something unnatural.

Which brings me to this: I think Cinderela Guevara was told to stay away from the scene. Because in the sheriff's report, Dominguez first told her he needed her there immediately. Then, after a few exchanges, she did not go to the scene.

We also have a hearse from Alpine, Texas show up. And a border patrol vehicle. How did border patrol know there was a death? Who called them? I now doubt it was an EMS team. The phone call to the hospital shows the EMS were not needed. This hearse was supposedly a decoy, as the ranch manager, Van Etten, stated but there were no reporters other than the one San Antonio Express guy. There was no need for a decoy. I'm beginning to feel there was a second death, one not reported. And was quickly taken away in this hearse.

The scandal about Scalia being killed by a kid slitting his throat is crazy, I know. But this story is simply starting to feel that it's possible. A corrupt sheriff, hunting parties, secret societies, border patrol corruption, a dirt path that leads to the Mexican border, a totally secluded ranch with no phone service, beds in the hallway...

I think I need to lie down!



posted on Mar, 2 2016 @ 08:01 AM
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I just realized the report didn't list Scalia's eyeglasses. I wear contacts but I always have my eyeglasses with me when I'm on a trip. Contacts dry out, get torn, get debris in them, etc...So it's always essential to bring your glasses, too.

What happened to his glasses? There was evidence the fire pit outside his room was used and there was broken glass on the ground. It's reasonable to assume he was outside on his patio, enjoying a cigar before bed. Did something happen that caused his glasses to fly off and break?







 
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