San Francisco built an outdoor urinal

My granddaughter was 7 when she did her first stint on Thanksgiving for the homeless.

Poor kid. I hope she divorces her so-called family.

Socialist programming.

a reply to: andy06shake

Oh come on. It's only a matter of time before someone takes care of that business in the new fixture too. Probably already has happened.

originally posted by: Obsrvr
I don't see this as an advancement of any kind.

SF has always been one big toilet.

Just curious.

Have you actually spent time there?

Other parts of the world, you do get prefab toilets. The only downside is that you need several coins to get in:

goo.gl...

Other solutions include self-cleaning toilets. A person walks in, does their business, and leaves, then the whole system goes into autoclave mode with high-pressure hot water jets.

But then this is California, so you would end up with people trapped in outdoor toilets and need the firefighters to help them escape:

www.youtube.com...

a reply to: stormcell

But then this is California, so you would end up with people trapped in outdoor toilets

Why get them out? It's a better mousetrap.

originally posted by: stormcell
Other parts of the world, you do get prefab toilets. The only downside is that you need several coins to get in

They tried coin toilets in Los Angeles years back. There was so much damage done by people tying to go - - that had no money - - they removed them all.

In Hermosa Beach, CA - - they have rows of individual stalls with locked doors. You see 'couples' going in them all the time.

A maintained open facility solves a problem that can't be successfully solved in any other way.

Better to get over our "sensitivities" then spread disease by urinating in alleys, yards, alcoves, under bridges, etc.

a reply to: Annee

I have a long time ago, I would go back to visit.. never live, alas people sometimes don't have a choice where they live.. but they do have a choice where they urinate, I understand both sides of the coin.. star for you on a post and bathe got a few.. I just don't see this as innovative, and progressive.. if it's a problem put out a porta potty there and regularly clean that.... instead of hosing our animal remains....

originally posted by: stormcell

But then this is California, so you would end up with people trapped in outdoor toilets and need the firefighters to help them escape

Like a stuck door is exclusive to California.

originally posted by: lighter78
a reply to: Annee

I have a long time ago, I would go back to visit.. never live, alas people sometimes don't have a choice where they live.. but they do have a choice where they urinate, I understand both sides of the coin.. star for you on a post and bathe got a few.. I just don't see this as innovative, and progressive.. if it's a problem put out a porta potty there and regularly clean that.... instead of hosing our animal remains....

I live in the coastal area between Long Beach Harbor, CA and Venice, CA.

The problem is certainly not exclusive to San Francisco.

The weather and beaches make it easier to be homeless.

I say - - - whatever works to keep every where else sanitary - - to prevent spread of disease. Any closed door is a place for privacy. Not necessarily for the use intended.

What they should install is something that shocks the old wienie if you pee in an unauthorized place.

Go Tesla!

originally posted by: SeaWorthy

originally posted by: AceWombat04
My social anxiety wouldn't even allow me to do that in such an open, public way lol. But hey... if ya gotta go, I guess ya gotta go.

Personally, I've always been fond of golden gate park for such emergencies. :p Find some dense trees where little light shines, ensure you're far enough away from the sound of voices for any noises caused by elimination to carry, and relieve yourself in the peaceful tranquility of chirping birds and pleasant smelling leaves and Earth.

Peace.

From what I have heard of San Francisco heading back into those dense trees may be a negative for more than one reason.

I've always felt safe in that park. Been going there since I could barely take steps. Nowhere feels safer to me. Perhaps that's an illusion of familiarity, though.

Peace.

originally posted by: AceWombat04

originally posted by: SeaWorthy

originally posted by: AceWombat04
My social anxiety wouldn't even allow me to do that in such an open, public way lol. But hey... if ya gotta go, I guess ya gotta go.

Personally, I've always been fond of golden gate park for such emergencies. :p Find some dense trees where little light shines, ensure you're far enough away from the sound of voices for any noises caused by elimination to carry, and relieve yourself in the peaceful tranquility of chirping birds and pleasant smelling leaves and Earth.

Peace.

From what I have heard of San Francisco heading back into those dense trees may be a negative for more than one reason.

I've always felt safe in that park. Been going there since I could barely take steps. Nowhere feels safer to me. Perhaps that's an illusion of familiarity, though.

Peace.

I wouldn't know other than what I read. I see muggings and this sort of reports.

While visiting relatives I read about a sting operation in a local park that's apparently been known for quite a while as a popular location for gay hookups. The police arrested a couple dozen men for "indecent exposure" after they approached undercover officers, looking for male sex partners (and apparently displaying their goods).

So the area with the urinal has a history

The Pacific Justice Institute is threatening to sue the city of San Francisco if officials don’t remove an outdoor urinal near the area known as the “Gay Beach” in San Francisco’s Dolores Park.

They paid 15,000 to make that urinal whew!
www.towleroad.com...

Based on interviews with several gay San Francisco men and visits to the city's parks, men of all ages are still cruising in the city's outdoor spaces. Among other reasons, they find the Internet inefficient, and they like being outside. Often, the men said, they're just looking for oral sex.

The fact that men still visit the parks to hook up is likely common knowledge to many. One man in Dolores Park told a reporter who admitted to not being intimately familiar with the scene, "You've never been up here? I find that hard to believe."

www.windycitymediagroup.com...

a reply to: Annee

The weather and beaches make it easier to be homeless.

Do you think these are homeless in the sense that they lost homes or can't afford one, or are they mainly people looking to live free? it would be easy for society to deal with the issue of true homeless, one thing is not to spend 15,000 on a nothing urinal that should be a few bags of concrete. The mentally ill and those wishing to live "free" that is another matter.

soon we will be throwing the waste from chamber pot out into the gutters.

a reply to: SeaWorthy

So are you saying this progressive new outdoor urinal innovation near the gay beach is actually being used as an outdoor BJ booth?

originally posted by: SeaWorthy
a reply to: Annee

The weather and beaches make it easier to be homeless.

Do you think these are homeless in the sense that they lost homes or can't afford one, or are they mainly people looking to live free? it would be easy for society to deal with the issue of true homeless, one thing is not to spend 15,000 on a nothing urinal that should be a few bags of concrete. The mentally ill and those wishing to live "free" that is another matter.

Do you think non-mentally ill stay on the streets long term?

A "normal" person who's homeless can usually find a friend to couch surf.

$15,000 - - - I'll take the plumbing that goes along with the few bags of concrete.

Still talking about the toilet that is California, I see.

We've advanced to BJ's in the public urinal. Wonderful.

It's to be expected in that town.

originally posted by: Obsrvr
Still talking about the toilet that is California, I see.

We've advanced to BJ's in the public urinal. Wonderful.

It's to be expected in that town.

And everyone from the south is a fundamental Baptist redneck.

I get the need to have to go when you have to go, but really look at the thing, they could have just placed signs on a random street gutter that said " Urinate Here". $15,000 on a curb. Seems like misplaced money. Looks like a really expensive cheap solution.

originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: SeaWorthy

So are you saying this progressive new outdoor urinal innovation near the gay beach is actually being used as an outdoor BJ booth?

Not I, I am saying nothing more or less than reporting the article.