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originally posted by: ketsuko
So, if someone were to destroy every single original document pertaining to your birth, you would more or less have no solid proof that you exist?
As you can see from their own writings the Catholic Church has always opposed the Bible...
"Opened on Thursday alongside the Inquisition archives was the infamous Index of Forbidden Books, which Roman Catholics were forbidden to read or possess on pain of excommunication. They showed that even "the Bible" was once on the blacklist. Translations of the holy book ended up on the bonfires along with other ``heretical'' works...
"Canon 14. We prohibit also that the laity should be permitted to have the books of the Old or New Testament; ...we most strictly forbid their having any translation of these books."
a reply to: Seede That's my problem. Not even God protected the originals. Never mind people. That's how little it mattered. Not very infallible is it.
originally posted by: areyousirius360
a reply to: UtnapisjtimYour theory doesn't hold up because we have older, written on paper documents oxygen papyrus doesn't matter. How complicated is it to understand that the srory of Jesus and his disciples occurred at a time in history when we ABSOLUTELY had the ability to preserve written documents. It's not a stretch either that God would preserve it if we couldn't. That theory is full of holes and I would lose it.
en.wikipedia.org... [...] The oldest written manuscripts have been preserved by the perfect dryness of their Middle Eastern resting places, whether placed within sarcophagi in Egyptian tombs, or reused as mummy-wrappings, discarded in the middens of Oxyrhynchus or secreted for safe-keeping in jars and buried (Nag Hammadi library) or stored in dry caves (Dead Sea scrolls). Manuscripts in Tocharian languages, written on palm leaves, survived in desert burials in the Tarim Basin of Central Asia. Volcanic ash preserved some of the Roman library of the Villa of the Papyri in Herculaneum.
en.wikipedia.org... Ironically, the manuscripts that were being most carefully preserved in the libraries of antiquity are virtually all lost. Papyrus has a life of at most a century or two in relatively moist Italian or Greek conditions; only those works copied onto parchment, usually after the general conversion to Christianity, have survived, and by no means all of those.edit on 2-2-2016 by Utnapisjtim because: (no reason given)
Is a lamp brought in to be put under a basket, or under a bed, and not on a stand?». In the apocrypha Jesus is known to say to his followers that they should not write down the stories, but memorise them and share them orally. Keep the living word of god alive by memorising it and becoming it, this is the whole mystery really. You hear the word of God, and you remember it, hey, you even live by it if you love it, for it's mostly sensible, and if you love it you will certainly live by it to some extent anyhow whether perfectly or poorly, and that was how they did it, and why the stories are so beautiful. They were made to be remembered and shared, and there are linguistic mechnisms involved to secure the stories' accuracy over time.
DNA is found in every cell of our bodies (in at least some stage of its development) and has a beautiful appearance, having the shape of a spiral staircase. The step (or rungs) are like letters in our alphabet and, ascending or descending the staircase, the letters taken together spell words which have meanings. Altogether, there are around three billion letters in human DNA, which amounts to a lot of information—about a thousand books the size of the Bible. For example, it contains the information needed to grow a baby from a fertilized egg—how to build the heart, lungs, brain and so on. As adults, we need DNA too, as it stores the software that controls much of what goes on inside us.
originally posted by: queenofswords
a reply to: Utnapisjtim
It is said that DNA is a language in itself.
Do you think that the account of The Tower of Babel may have something to do with "scrambling" or "manipulating" the language of DNA in some way? Just a thought to ponder.
originally posted by: areyousirius360
a reply to: UtnapisjtimThe dead sea scrolls are rubbish? They containe multiple copies of the Old Testament, along with 1Enoch minus Esther, plus some prophetic Messianic texts. If you call the oldest Biblical texts in existence rubbish I don't think you have looked into it thoroughly.
It's even used in modern translations as far back as the 60's and has shed light on many things we did not know for sure.
originally posted by: ChesterJohn
I love how much your trust is in Archaeology and Science (man) and not in the Lord when it comes to his words.
Oh ye of little faith.