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Nostradamus's WWIII Prophecy and events leading up to it, as seen and explained by experts in 1979

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posted on Dec, 17 2015 @ 03:36 PM
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It always seems too easy to relate the prophecies of someone after those times have already passed and we have hindsight, and putting the pieces together afterwards. However, take a look at this documentary from 1979 which discusses Nostradamus's prophecy on WWIII. Remember, it's a 36 year old documentary and we were still in the middle of the Cold War. I've done the best I could do with writing out the transcript. You can watch the entire documentary, but the WWIII starts at 1:24:43.

Start @ 1:24:43

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Transcript:

Up until now, we've taken examples of quatrains and explained them and analyzed them. Now we ask you just to listen to what Nostradamus had to say about the devastation of a nuclear war, a third world war. His description is so vivid, it needs no interpretation.

Quatrain:
The kingdom of fear shall come to those in Europe, fire and sword shall destroy their cities.
The great one of Asia by land and sea with a great Army so that blues greens crosses, to death he shall drive.
Tears, cries, and wailing, howls and terror, an inhuman cruel heart, black and cold, take Geneva, the islands, the main people of Genoa.
Blood pours, hunger for weak, mercy to none.
The Arab prince [can't make out the next name] Saul, Venus, Leo, the kingdoms of the church will be overcome by the sea, towards Persia very near [a million?].
Turkey, Egypt, too Southern to invade.
In the Danube and Rhine, shall come to drink the great camel and shall not repent.
The roads shall tremble and more of those in the [??] and near the Alps, the clock shall dwindle.
From the Black Sea and great Tartaria, a king shall come to see France.
He shall go to Alane and Armenia and leave a bloody rod in Constantinople.
At the 48th degree of the climate directly at the end of Cancer, there's a very great drought.
Fish in the sea, river and the lake boil hectic.
They are all distressed from the fire in the sky.
If France can cross the Liberian sea, you will find yourself besieged among island and sea, Mohamed against you.
Moreso the Adriatic, you will know the bones of horses and asses.
The fleet is wrecked near the Adriatic sea. The Earth trembles. Pushed into the air and falls again. Egypt trembles, Mohamed's increasing power. Herod is sent to call out for surrender.


So the devastation spreads across Europe, and even into Egypt and Constantinople. But it does not stop there. The United States is also involved as we can see from a quatrain, which many experts agree, refers to New York as the new city.

Quatrain:
Garden of the world near the new city, in the way of the man made mountains shall be seized on and plunged into as a ferment, being forced to drink form a sulfurous poisoned waters.

The man made mountains, an obvious description of modern skyscrapers. Further to that is the reference to the fire in the 45th degree latitude, which is very close to the position of New York City.

Quatrain:
The sky will burn at 45 degrees. Fire approaches the great new city. Immediately a huge scattered flame leaps up.

An answer to the question, "where," it's likely that most of the world will be involved. Hopefully less by those specifically described by Nostradamus. Which brings us the the question of, "Who will survive?" To answer this, we need to remember Hiroshima and try to remember the devastation of more than 20 years of nuclear holocaust. Obviously, many of us would have no chance whatsoever, but, there is light at the end of the tunnel. Nostradamus does tell us that the war will end and that the West will ultimately win due to an unexpected alliance. An alliance between the USA, and Russia. This may seem far fetched, but let's examine the evidence given by Nostradamus.

Quatrain:
When those of the arctic pole shall be united together, there shall be in the East, great fear and trembling. One shall be newly elected that shall bear the brunt. Roads in Constantinople shall be dyed in barbarian blood.

Those of the Arctic Pole can only mean Russia and the US, as we see here at the Bering Strait. The two continents are at their closest point in the Arctic Circle. Alaska, part of the US, and Russia. And he goes on to say, "In the East, great fear and trembling" so he's suggesting here that these two Northern powers will unite against the East. And there's a further quatrain to support this.

Quatrain:
One day the two great masters shall be friends, their great powers shall be increased.

So, after many years of fighting, it seems that Russia herself may become uncertain that there will be a division in the land. The South remaining with Islam, due to the predominance of Muslim population, and the North joining with the US, those of the Arctic Pole. And as incredible as it may seem, Nostradamus suggests that not only will this alliance occur, but will triumph. As he says in several quatrains, and also in one of his epistles.

Epistle:
For the principal Eastern ruler being for the most part moved by the Northern and Western men, shall be vanquished and put to death, beaten, and all the rest put to flight, and the children he had by many women put in prison.
The barbarian league will be driven out, over two laws, the pagan one will fail.


Here he tells us the pagan law will be driven out and goes on to talk with a king of Europe who eventually becomes a driving force of victory for the West.

Quatrain:
Out of [??] will come the king of Europe, accompanied by those of the North. A group of reds and whites shall create a great troop, and then shall go against the king of Babylon.

There it is again, another reference to those of the North. And the reds and the whites? Russians and the West.

Quatrain:
By antichrist, three shall be brought to nothing. His war shall last seven and twenty years. The heretics dead, prisoners exiled. Blood of human body, water made red, Earth shrunk.

Here, Nostradamus states definitely that the war will last 27 years and that the third antichrist will be driven back and brought to nothing.

Quatrain:
From Barcelona, to Genoa and Venice, from Sicily near Monaco united, and against the barbarian, the fleet shall take her aim. The barbarian shall be driven back. After this war shall have lasted a good while, there should be a renewed reign of Saturn and a golden age. God the Creator shall say, hearing the affliction of his people. Satan shall be tied and beaten and put into the bottom of the deep, and here shall begin an age of universal peace.
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posted on Dec, 17 2015 @ 03:43 PM
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originally posted by: LSU0408
It always seems too easy to relate the prophecies of someone after those times have already passed and we have hindsight, and putting the pieces together afterwards.i]


That at least is true....


I haven't seen anyone have much success predicting the future based on Nostradamus in the forty years I've been paying attention.



posted on Dec, 17 2015 @ 03:48 PM
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a reply to: DelMarvel

Look closely at his quatrain about the man made mountains and the fire. The experts in this documentary explain that they think modern skyscrapers in New York, the new city at the 45 degree latitude and the fire they will see. The significance here is that this was made in 1979, it's not a modern documentary.



posted on Dec, 17 2015 @ 04:03 PM
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originally posted by: LSU0408
a reply to: DelMarvel

Look closely at his quatrain about the man made mountains and the fire. The experts in this documentary explain that they think modern skyscrapers in New York, the new city at the 45 degree latitude and the fire they will see. The significance here is that this was made in 1979, it's not a modern documentary.


Wouldn't a large pyramid or the mound (tell) that ancient cities sit on be more of a man made mountain than a skyscraper (which is more like a tower)?



posted on Dec, 17 2015 @ 04:05 PM
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a reply to: LSU0408

Also, from the text, why New York, not New Hampshire, Newton or New Delhi?



posted on Dec, 17 2015 @ 04:06 PM
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Quatrain:
One day the two great masters shall be friends, their great powers shall be increased.
Quatrain:
Out of [??] will come the king of Europe, accompanied by those of the North. A group of reds and whites shall create a great troop, and then shall go against the king of Babylon.

China and Russia
Reds and Whites china and russia
Quatrain:
By antichrist, three shall be brought to nothing. His war shall last seven and twenty years. The heretics dead, prisoners exiled. Blood of human body, water made red, Earth shrunk.

War on Terror/Erupt date
October 7, 2001 add 27 years. End oct. 7 2028



posted on Dec, 17 2015 @ 04:13 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: LSU0408

Also, from the text, why New York, not New Hampshire, Newton or New Delhi?



Because of the latitude he mentions. It could be one of the others you mentioned, but I don't think they have the big city skyscrapers like NY... Of course, the latitude could be inaccurate, but NY fits it better if we go by it.



posted on Dec, 17 2015 @ 04:14 PM
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a reply to: SeaWorthy

What do you make of the two powers that unite at the Arctic Pole?



posted on Dec, 17 2015 @ 04:16 PM
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a reply to: chr0naut

Yes, but they don't match up to the latitude given.



posted on Dec, 17 2015 @ 04:32 PM
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originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: LSU0408

Also, from the text, why New York, not New Hampshire, Newton or New Delhi?



Because of the latitude he mentions. It could be one of the others you mentioned, but I don't think they have the big city skyscrapers like NY... Of course, the latitude could be inaccurate, but NY fits it better if we go by it.


New York is at latitude 40°40′N, longitude 73°56′W.

These cities are a better fit:

New Glasgow, Nova Scotia 45.59′N, 63°12′W
Novi Sad, Serbia 45°15′N, 19°51′E

Or by longitude (since Nostradamus didn't specify) the only city is São José dos Campos in Brazil. 23°11′S, 45°53′W.

A little fact checking debunks much.



posted on Dec, 17 2015 @ 04:47 PM
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My 2¢ -

The pyramid on the one dollar bill represents Islam's triumph as the New World Order.

I've thought this for many years and now the war is here in all but name.

The eye represents The Eye, that which created all.

Frag away. This is my take. This was all planned billions of years ago, in the depths of the depths of time.



posted on Dec, 17 2015 @ 05:28 PM
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a reply to: SeaWorthy

Curious as to where you came up with October 7, 2001 I'm assuming that is when Bush declared the war on terror.

Seems to me the date should be August 23, 1996 the day terror declared war on the U.S.

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posted on Dec, 17 2015 @ 05:30 PM
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Wrong thread.
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posted on Dec, 17 2015 @ 08:08 PM
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originally posted by: Diisenchanted
a reply to: SeaWorthy

Curious as to where you came up with October 7, 2001 I'm assuming that is when Bush declared the war on terror.

Seems to me the date should be August 23, 1996 the day terror declared war on the U.S.

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Not sure what you mean 9/11/2001 attack and then US declared war October.
Ah I see "Bin Laden's 1996 fatwā is entitled "Declaration of War against the Americans Occupying the Land of the Two Holy Places". you could be right even though they are not a country.
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posted on Dec, 17 2015 @ 08:25 PM
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originally posted by: LSU0408
a reply to: SeaWorthy

What do you make of the two powers that unite at the Arctic Pole?





Quatrain:
When those of the arctic pole shall be united together, there shall be in the East, great fear and trembling. One shall be newly elected that shall bear the brunt. Roads in Constantinople shall be dyed in barbarian blood.


Those of the Arctic Pole can only mean Russia and the US, as we see here at the Bering Strait. The two continents are at their closest point in the Arctic Circle. Alaska, part of the US, and Russia. And he goes on to say, "In the East, great fear and trembling" so he's suggesting here that these two Northern powers will unite against the East. And there's a further quatrain to support this.

The Arctic Council is a high-level intergovernmental forum that addresses issues faced by the Arctic governments and the indigenous people of the Arctic. It has eight member countries: Canada, Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway, Russia, Sweden, and the United States.




When those of the arctic pole shall be united together, there shall be in the East, great fear and trembling.

This makes me think of the Icelanders agreeing to reject Austerity and jail their bankers.
www.commondreams.org...



posted on Dec, 17 2015 @ 09:24 PM
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a reply to: LSU0408 The ancients already knew that using the PHI irradiated signal for fusion above natural fusion.....such as the modern occultists are doing, caused the metal/stone of Earth buildings to lose their bonds....and they began to crumble....the foundations weakened and they began to sink into the ground.

This coincided with the natural dust fusion of Earth to release itself causing the sink....and sink holes.

Stone and metal were both formed in the Earth stone involving the natural fusion and crystal light sound signals of uranium and plutonium being fused....this is a consideration that modern day occultists should have considered, yet never did.

So we should ask ourselves why this information was not passed on to modern science occultism....and it is because the brotherhood that brought this information to your attention and then murdered the occultists who caused the attack on life, went into hiding. They then reformed in secrecy and overtook the community and life and recommenced occultist practices.....and if not for them, we would be living a much safer life in a spiritual minded standard.

A consideration for the public was brought to my own attention when the UFO was witnessed near the 911 collapse building. It was wondered why the building when hit by a plane could collapse in such a way.....this is evidence for all of humanity to now consider, that the building and its structure had been already weakened by the UFO presence....a converted chemical signal of irradiated light sound that came through the atmosphere after burning the atmospheric gases....for the UFO is formed from a higher radiation than Earth's natural radiation.

Witness to increased out of space radiation has caused the following, as evidence the ancients knew about....the cross of WOOD.

Wood and natural life belongs to a spiritual condition of ownership of a natural atmospheric condition.

When the nuclear experiment blew out the atmospheric PHI natural signal of radiation, the forest was flattened in Russia. C of the Christ evalutes C as 100. Around 100 years later a meteor released from a heataed radiation transmitted signal to Earth then sent a meteor. Meteors prove that they are frozen in their orbit, until radiation increase releases them.

We know by self evidence that human combustion happened, and animals such as cows were physically attacked, as were humans. We also know by self evidence that huge forest fires have started in many places, thought to be lightning causes, but by evidence could be UFO causes.

The fire in the sky has been witnessed by my own spiritual psyche....the black triangle with red burning flame....told by spirit that this was burning of the upper atmospheric gases.

We have witnessed UFO bodies going into the sea, and also coming out of the sea....we have seen them suck up water and displace water. We know by self evidence that the UFO is attacking us.

The ancients knew the same advice, for they witnessed the conditions themselves, wrote documents to warn us, kept objects (Shroud of Turin) as evidence of cellular bleeding and also combustion so that the evidence could not be fought over.

This is because the ancient brotherhoods were by self evidence fighting for the continuance of Life and spirit on Planet Earth.



posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 04:45 AM
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a reply to: LSU0408

Nice thread OP, S+F for you. Been a while since we had a good old fashioned Nostradamus thread on here.

Many of Nostradamus predictions jive right along with Edgar Cayces predictions about the great muslim invasion of Europe. Which we are seeing unfold today I believe. We are also seeing the volcano around South America and Iceland be more active which Cayce says is a definite sign the great chastisement will occur soon.



posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 07:58 AM
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a reply to: LSU0408

Thanks for the Youtube link, apart from the extremely bad VHS quality, it was very informative and even more interesting considering its over 30 years old.




posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 08:14 AM
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a reply to: LSU0408




Quatrain:
Garden of the world near the new city, in the way of the man made mountains shall be seized on and plunged into as a ferment, being forced to drink form a sulfurous poisoned waters.

The man made mountains, an obvious description of modern skyscrapers. Further to that is the reference to the fire in the 45th degree latitude, which is very close to the position of New York City.



Interesting that the quatrain says "Garden of the world near the new city". New Jersey is called the Garden State. The Port Authority of NY and NJ are a shared enterprise (the subway was under the Towers), That is a good indication of the location Nostradamus was referring to.



posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 09:46 AM
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a reply to: SeaWorthy

Meh, just like 2012. We're still here, aren't we?



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