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originally posted by: stuthealien
i just watched it and he never actually said kill them he was more deport the familys but i see the discredit everything he says is in full swing
"When you get these terrorists, you have to take out their families," Trump said on Fox News. "They care about their lives, don't kid yourselves."
"When you get these terrorists, you have to take out their families," he repeated. "They care about their lives, don't kid yourselves. But they say they don't care about their lives. You have to take out their families."
originally posted by: theonenonlyone
originally posted by: ketsuko
1.) Americans have a right to be armed.
Many mass shootings by other Americans but no call for action. Not considered an epidemic of gun violence.
2.) There is no similar right for us to take in anyone and everyone.
One mass shooting by American guy (happens to be Muslim) who went on rampage but he somehow speaks (to some people) for all Muslims and refugees and a call for action. Somehow proves an epidemic of Muslim violence in America.
Yeah still an ridiculous responses to both.
originally posted by: ketsuko
originally posted by: MystikMushroom
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Indigo5
... but a hostile people, and must make old and young, rich and poor, feel the hard hand of war ...
Yep, making people feel the hard hand of war isn't about targeting them ...
Having your food supply lines cut off and having your infrastructure destroyed is what that means. That is quite a bit different than troops going from door to door, dragging women and children out into the street and executing them.
That is more or less what ISIS tends to do to those they target.
originally posted by: Nyiah
If people like Trump can get their way, I have no doubt there is strong potential to make people like Mao, Stalin and Hitler look like wimpy softies regarding "cleansings" of people.
There is a point when rhetoric and desire go too far, and cross over to the Demonic category. One surefire way to do it is to be even less picky & more thorough about who you kill off than your enemy.
originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
originally posted by: Nyiah
If people like Trump can get their way, I have no doubt there is strong potential to make people like Mao, Stalin and Hitler look like wimpy softies regarding "cleansings" of people.
There is a point when rhetoric and desire go too far, and cross over to the Demonic category. One surefire way to do it is to be even less picky & more thorough about who you kill off than your enemy.
Less picky? Like when Obama himself using drones to target suspected terrorists kills hundreds and now in the thousands, women and children, and then finds the suspect wasn't there? and then keeps that same procedure going while bragging he is getting good at it?
How demonic would you say that is? Can you hear the other demons laughing like he can?
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
originally posted by: Nyiah
If people like Trump can get their way, I have no doubt there is strong potential to make people like Mao, Stalin and Hitler look like wimpy softies regarding "cleansings" of people.
There is a point when rhetoric and desire go too far, and cross over to the Demonic category. One surefire way to do it is to be even less picky & more thorough about who you kill off than your enemy.
Less picky? Like when Obama himself using drones to target suspected terrorists kills hundreds and now in the thousands, women and children, and then finds the suspect wasn't there? and then keeps that same procedure going while bragging he is getting good at it?
How demonic would you say that is? Can you hear the other demons laughing like he can?
That's a red herring argument. It completely distracts from the original point.
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Indigo5
They seek to terrorize by targeting the civilian population.
originally posted by: ketsuko
Because it's not an "epidemic." Statistics show there are fewer deaths by gun now than there were when the Assault Weapons ban was instituted.
And unless you are being obtuse, plenty of people call for action, and many more tell them to stuff it.
One Muslim ... you are ignoring Paris (twice), Ft. Hood, Chattanooga, Mumbai, the mall in Kenya, and other such instances around the world. It's not just the SB killers we are thinking about.
There have been 22 mass shootings in 2015 in which four or more victims were killed, slightly above average for the past 15 years
Focusing on the widely accepted FBI definition – an incident in which four or more victims are shot and killed – there have been 22 mass shootings this year, according to a Monitor analysis of two crowdsourced databases that rely on news reports.
In these 22 incidents – which averaged about one every 16 days – 133 people were killed and 52 were wounded. The shooters were usually white men acting alone, and they typically were motivated by personal disputes, rather than politics or ideology
This year was unusual in that two of the public mass shootings were committed by three apparently radicalized Islamic extremists.
originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
originally posted by: Nyiah
If people like Trump can get their way, I have no doubt there is strong potential to make people like Mao, Stalin and Hitler look like wimpy softies regarding "cleansings" of people.
There is a point when rhetoric and desire go too far, and cross over to the Demonic category. One surefire way to do it is to be even less picky & more thorough about who you kill off than your enemy.
Less picky? Like when Obama himself using drones to target suspected terrorists kills hundreds and now in the thousands, women and children, and then finds the suspect wasn't there? and then keeps that same procedure going while bragging he is getting good at it?
How demonic would you say that is? Can you hear the other demons laughing like he can?
That's a red herring argument. It completely distracts from the original point.
No, it makes the same exact point he was trying to make, except his hypocrisy got in the way. Everything people are saying about Trump in order to condemn him, do not see that their own hero buffoon has been employing many of the same methods they are now claiming to despise and abhor.
A side effect of hypocrisy is blindness to those you approve of or accept. Deal with it.
PS. Before you can eliminate the right and left illusion, you have to see your own hypocrisy first, and come to terms that it is all that the right and left is, two different shades of WRONG.
Newsweek put out an article this week claiming that the new commercial space projects by billionaires like Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos are actually about an escape hatch for the wealthy elite one percent who plan to escape to Mars and leave the rest of us “to suffer on a dying, warring planet.”