All this anti Muslim propaganda is having an effect...

originally posted by: Flatfish



Maybe we should play John Lennon's "Imagine" from loud speakers across America 5 times a day as a call to unity.

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originally posted by: neo96
It warms my heart to see Islam being defended with such fervor.

A religion that has a WORSE track record on women, and gay rights than that other most villainous one that starts with a C.

So are you sugesting that we all hate the Christian church too and demonise all christians?

The christian church has a pretty bad record when it comes to violence manipulation and child abuse historically.

originally posted by: neo96
It warms my heart to see Islam being defended with such fervor.

A religion that has a WORSE track record on women, and gay rights than that other most villainous one that starts with a C.

Says the person who defended the kkk on another thread. So every Muslim person is a bad person? I'll have to tell that to my brother in law who came over here to seek refuge from Iraq after the U.S. went in and destroyed the place. The very same man worked from day one to assimilate into the country never got a hand out and worked to get his own business. My sister his wife doesn't dress up in a burqa or doesn't have her freedom taken by him. What about my 2 year old nephew? Is he also a bad person just because he is Muslim?

originally posted by: tothetenthpower
a reply to: theonenonlyone

Again, this falls right into the hands of ISIS. They want Muslims at large to feel targeted, abused and discriminated against.

It'll be much easier to indoctrinate them if they already think the rest of the world is out to kill them. Funny how sometimes Americans don't realize the biggest security threat they face is themselves.

~Tenth

Quoted for truth!

Couldn't have said it better myself.

We Are playing into the Isis prophecy fuelling their conspiracy theories.

Nicholas tenin is a French journalist who spent 10 years as an Isis captive. He probably knows more than most on their desires and prophesies, that we in the west are falling into their trap

a reply to: nonspecific

So are you sugesting that we all hate the Christian church too and demonise all christians?

Why not ?

Christianity is Death Cuilt

All things being EQUAL.

originally posted by: neo96
It warms my heart to see Islam being defended with such fervor.

Islam is a religion. Muslims are PEOPLE... Learn the difference. I don't defend ANY religion.

originally posted by: Flatfish
On the down side, I feel quite confident that those who propagate the anti-Muslim rhetoric while espousing their own Christianity will not hesitate to target me right along with the Muslim I'd be escorting.

Of course, that's possible and I've thought of that, too. But I'm refusing fear...

Maybe we should play John Lennon's "Imagine" from loud speakers across America 5 times a day as a call to unity.

Sounds great to me. My next male puppy will be named Lennon.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: nonspecific

So are you sugesting that we all hate the Christian church too and demonise all christians?

Why not ?

Christianity is Death Cuilt

All things being EQUAL.

Or we could simply admit that the vast majority of members of all religions are just every day folk going about there business and it is only the fractional minority that cause the problems and act accordingly based on the facts?

originally posted by: neo96
It warms my heart to see Islam being defended with such fervor.

A religion that has a WORSE track record on women, and gay rights than that other most villainous one that starts with a C.

That's funny!

Wasn't it that C faith that burned witches at the stake?

Didn't the papal Inquisition originate from that C faith?

Wasn't it that C faith that sent their missionaries to Promote their ideology in Africa including and even concentrating on the persecution of gays?

Is a Nun's habit that much different than a burka?

Remember when women in America couldn't even vote?

Remember when girls couldn't wear pants to school unless the outside temp. was deemed to be cold enough to allow it?

Worse indeed.

So where the hell were all these people for the latest thread of NLBS ?

Ok yeah whatever people.

Oh yeah were too busy calling Christians terrorists.

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: Flatfish

Imagine how ISIS might be royally screwed if we, in the US (and the West), EMBRACED every Muslim here. Imagine if we all started to seek out ways to protect the Muslims that are being attacked (illustrated in the OP)... We could offer to go places in public with them and do whatever necessary to keep them safe from the fear-mongering bigots...

What if the story of love and acceptance got back to ISIS? It's a wonderful thought...

Imagine...

Minus the few people that hit or spit on a muslim, that's exactly what we do. And for those that don't want refugees over here from the middle east, we get called islamophobes, haters, and xenaphobes. So what exactly are you trying to say we should do that isn't already being done? Are you saying it's our fault for not wanting to accept Syrian refugees?

a reply to: LSU0408

What exactly is your reasoning for not wanting to accept refugees from a war torn country please?

Sorry if I missed it earler in the post.

Is it just Syrians or anyone seeking a better life than the one they have both for themselves and there children?

originally posted by: Eilasvaleleyn
a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

I can also imagine a jumping/bouncy castle packed tight with sexually frustrated supermodels appearing outside my front doorstep one fateful summer's eve.

Well, a better example would be a wormhole that led to the end of space and time, seeing as it's something I'd much rather prefer over the previous example, but you get the point.

All three are about equal in terms of likelihood.

Kinda like Deep in the Valley? Mmmmmmmmmm hmmmm

originally posted by: nonspecific

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: Eilasvaleleyn
a reply to: LSU0408

Anti-Muslim signs, gun sales spikes, maybe even lynches or murders I could understand, but firebombing a cafe just seems illogical.

I'd be hesitant about the middle eastern dressed jihadi looking people.

What exactly do these people look like, do you have a description or maybe a picture, that way I can keep my eyes peeled...

How do post a picture?

originally posted by: LSU0408
So what exactly are you trying to say we should do that isn't already being done? Are you saying it's our fault for not wanting to accept Syrian refugees?

I'm not TRYING to say anything. If you can't figure out what I've said from what I've written, then what good would it do for me to write it again?

Did I place blame or fault? No. Did I say ANYTHING about Syrian refugees? No. I simply asked you to use your imagination. Maybe if you read my post again, it would help to understand.

a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

This occurs so often, that people no longer care if they are attacked with these, or any of the other labels, they are so quick to use as a defense.

I have been taught to ignore the labels by the people who use them in their assaults. The moment you even hint at being cautious on any subject involving muslims the rabid attack begins. I have learned that it is a knee-jerk response borne of a very narrow perspective. It has no depth, no validity. Overuse of the terminology has rendered it nearly meaningless.

These labels are not catalyst to change but instead are brushed off as needling insult from weak arguments with no substance. When you try to address the real issues, the terminology continues to redirect the conversation to baseless attack and defense rather than solution driven discourse. It is a disservice to all parties involved.

originally posted by: neo96
It warms my heart to see Islam being defended with such fervor.

A religion that has a WORSE track record on women, and gay rights than that other most villainous one that starts with a C.

You mistake defending people, as defending a religion.

I wouldn't care if they were 7th day Adventists, being scared of all of them and denying them the chance to become US citizens while fleeing a warzone is ridiculous.

~Tenth

a reply to: LSU0408

It's instinct for children to see something different, and then ask an adult what they are seeing. If you choose to then use your authority as a parent, saying things that would lead your children to think that was wrong, that would be raising them to hate without context.

Now I really doubt you're the kind of person to do that, even just reading the few posts I had. I wasn't calling you out or anything just challenging your assertion that people in Christian homes don't get raised to hate, some of them most certainly do. And I don't mean against gays as I don't believe a lot of that is prevalent these days, outside of certain cultures and areas of the country.

~Tenth

a reply to: neo96

Why is it you have a problem with interpreting what was actually said?

You are always in thread creating false narratives to fit into whatever little world you reside in.

1 Person brings up a Christian or shows that some Christians have done some bad things then you read it and by the time it hits your brain, it turns into something completely different.

I remember you in a thread getting all riled when someone took what you said and twisted it (well to you anyways) but you seem to have no issue in doing it to others.

Take the time to read something and read again if it helps, so that you stop twisting and turning other members statements into something you want.

This is not an insult. I just think you have some kind of issue with reading or something.

originally posted by: nonspecific

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: nonspecific

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: and14263

originally posted by: stuthealien
a reply to: and14263

this is not actually entirely true some percentage of muslim parents bring their children up to hate the west,telling them how great the mother land is and how we the west have destroyed it ,and totally ignore the fact they have been fighting amoung themselves

Yes.

And some parents bring their children up to be homosexual hating Christians - but not all.

EDIT: I wonder what the percentage is you talk of?

Clever. False, but clever. Nobody brings their kids up to be Christians that hate gays. You people claim that anyone that disagrees with gay marriage is a gay hater.

What about those westboro baptist church folks?

I'm pretty sure that is what they do but only know what I have read in the news so could be incorrect on this?

Well, every Christian I've ever heard from detests those fools from Westboro that claim to be Christians. They'll be burning in hell when their lives expire.

That was in response to your claim that no christians raise there children to hate gay people.

Are you saying that although they claim to be christian they are in fact a radical extreme faction of christianity and the VAST majority of christians do not feel the same way?

That's exactly what I'm saying. Kids aren't raised by Christian parents to hate gays. If what you say is true, anyways, how do you explain all of those that aren't Christian and still don't support the homosexual marriage or lifestyle?

And is this where you compare one little church of protesters to an army of men that will decapitate you simply for the hell of it? It's no secret that all muslims aren't like ISIS, I don't even know where you guys get that BS from. But what's also known to most, is that the government has already warned Americans that ISIS is trying to sneak over here with Syrian refugees.