NLBS 03.07: Radical Right Wing Terrorism; That's Right, We Said it.

a reply to: Indigo5

Muslims are actually killing people in the USA.

a reply to: projectvxn

Thank you for your service and perfect response.

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: Wookiep

One thing is clear. It is obviously apparent that ATS has turned into the mouth piece of the Obama administration, and "it's crusade against all Americans who lean to the right politically..."

Whether they are doing it on purpose or not, ATS is officially espousing the anti-right wing rhetoric that the Obama administration has been pursuing since day one....

For Joe to actually claim that the pp undercover videos were the cause for that demented man to murder those people...

Hey Joe, you want to ban all speech you don't agree with?...

Demented people will use any excuse to murder. Banning all speech that anyone/any group disagrees with, and could even find offensive would ban all speech. After all saying "ALL lives matter" is somehow a racist comment and some people want to ban, and get people who say such phrases into re-education camps...

But of course, Joe only wants to ban speech on one side, and not his side. Heck, has ATS written anything, officially and with the same tone as this thread/video about the death threats, and violence from, you know groups like "Black Lives Matter"? Of course not. But hey, if you happen to disagree with abortion and you talk about it, you "are inciting violence"...

I am sure he will try to post that he is not on anyone's side, but we all can see the truth in that little video they cooked up.

As I wrote on another thread. I am certain not all ATS staff agreed with this little stunt against Christians, or anyone who disagrees with abortion, among other subjects. But who knows what next "right wing speech" they will claim causes violence...even though the pp undercover journalists never tried to incite violence, or called for the murder of anyone...

I don't know about all that.

But I do know after being on here after 5 years ATS is a equal opportunity basher.

They give a voice to everyone.

There is no written rule where it says people have to agree with anyone else.

First and foremost ATS is an opinion board.

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
One thing is clear. It is obviously apparent that ATS has turned into the mouth piece of the Obama administration, and "it's crusade against all Americans who lean to the right politically..."

True story: today I got banned from the discussion portions of Salon.com for being labeled a "Conservative Troll." I was taking issue with their parroting of the media distortions related to Trump, because, you know: TRUTH. And when I disagreed with their labeling of Salon.com as a liberal site, instead I called it maybe fundamentalist progressive or extremist socialist, that was apparently the last straw, and I was banned and many of my posts removed.

Whether they are doing it on purpose or not, ATS is officially espousing the anti-right wing rhetoric that the Obama administration has been pursuing since day one....

See above. I take issue with all rhetoric, because, you know, TRUTH.

For Joe to actually claim that the pp undercover videos were the cause for that demented man to murder those people...
Hey Joe, you want to ban all speech you don't agree with?...

Since I took part in the script, I can respond here: yeah, the videos were clearly an inspiration for his action.

The videos don't contain speech I disagree with, they contain lies. There's a difference.

Demented people will use any excuse to murder. Banning all speech that anyone/any group disagrees with, and could even find offensive would ban all speech.

No one suggested banning speech. Our issue(s) are with the media that promoted the lies with little or no challenge.

After all saying "ALL lives matter" is somehow a racist comment and some people want to ban,

The bastardization of the "BLM movement" aside, in a way I understand that, because it diminishes the original intent of "black lives matter." It's like trying to lump additional cancers into the Breast Cancer awareness efforts. There's a specific focus for a reason.

Heck, has ATS written anything, officially and with the same tone as this thread/video about the death threats, and violence from, you know groups like "Black Lives Matter"?

As has been mentioned in this thread, that's an episode we're working on. It takes a special kind of trollery to presume that just because a topic isn't covered, that must mean we're somehow okay with it.

We've also been very critical of the administrations wimpy stance on ISIS here: [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2JWHCiKOXg]President Obama Can't Say Radical Islam, so We Have An Alternative

even though the pp undercover journalists never tried to incite violence

Calling them "journalists" is an insult to journalists everywhere.

Just gonna throw this out to the ATS Staff.

If there is an epidemic of 'Right wing' terrorism.

I suppose you could create two forums dedicated to 'Christian' Terrorism, and 'Islamic' Terrorism.

Content driven by users.

That should make everyone happy.

a reply to: neo96

One terrorism forum will suffice.

Thought about this thread today...

Watching the news and at a Trump Rally, an African American protestor disrupted Trumps speech and one of the Trump Supporters shouts "Light the M*Fer on Fire!"...

Made me think of that pilot ISIS made a horrific spectacle of...

What is the world coming to?

Vid here
www.cnn.com...

originally posted by: neo96

I suppose you could create two forums dedicated to 'Christian' Terrorism, and 'Islamic' Terrorism.

The only people who seem to think there is a difference that matters between those two groups is the terrorists themselves?

Put another way...I care not what God someone claims to follow as they murder innocent people.

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: neo96

I suppose you could create two forums dedicated to 'Christian' Terrorism, and 'Islamic' Terrorism.

The only people who seem to think there is a difference that matters between those two groups is the terrorists themselves?

Put another way...I care not what God someone claims to follow as they murder innocent people.

Had to star that. "Wings" aren't the issue, it is the beast to which they are connected. I probably think of the loss of innocent life, especially children, more than is healthy. The world is so full of senseless pain that it is hard not to if you have a heart...

originally posted by: Indigo5
Watching the news and at a Trump Rally, an African American protestor disrupted Trumps speech and one of the Trump Supporters shouts "Light the M*Fer on Fire!"...

While not the right thing to say, there is an historical context to "Light the M*Fer on Fire!" that I'm sure was the inspiration. Sad thing is, the mainstream media isn't giving you the historical context in the mad rush to distorted rhetoric.

originally posted by: cuckooold

If ATS was the mouthpiece of the Obama administration and wanted to ban the speech they disagree with, do you think they would allow the conservative Muslim bashing pro-Trump anti-global warming threads that dominate the main page to exist?

Of course legally it can't be done, at least yet... But why else proclaim and try to brainwash other ATS members into thinking that talking against abortion equals to inciting violence?...

a reply to: SkepticOverlord

Skeptic. When ATS officially posts such videos trying to claim that talking about one topic in particular equals inciting violence, it seems to show that ATS officially is against such speech. Even when most people who talk against abortion do not call for violence or for the murder of anyone.

You guys must have known this was going to happen. You can't claim that "talking about abortion equals to inciting violence" and not expect a backlash against those claims when most anti-abortion people are not violent, nor incite violence.

As for the claim that the PP undercover videos was a hoax... Let me ask you this.... As a business owner, which you are one, when someone asks you "why don't you start by telling me, what are you used to paying?", what does that mean to you?... If you are bargaining for a price, which it was shown in at least one of the many threads about this topic, whether that price is exorbitant or not. What does that tell you? To me it says "haggling for a price"...

You can't have it both ways... You can't claim that the prices are merely to pay for transportation, handling etc". Or "administrative fees" and at the same time haggle for a price...



You can see the PP senior executive haggling for a price at 37 seconds in the above video.

Not to mention that this PP executive herself explains to her friend/co-worker that the PP undercover journalists are a for profit business" (of course they were not but the PP executive didn't know that)... She should have said "this is wrong, because fetal tissue cannot be used for profit"... Yet she doesn't...and she haggles for a price in behalf of PP as well...

I am also certain you know of the practice of businesses to charge, and increase the "administrative fee" prices to also gain from those price increases. You do know that right?

This is not inciting violence... And this is certainly not telling people it is ok to murder anyone... Because it isn't alright. If anyone thinks this gives them the right to murder, those people are insane. It's that simple...

You do know that there are insane liberals" right? Should all liberals be painted with the same broad brush as ATS is officially painting anyone who speaks against abortion?...

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Lies.



It is a proven fact the videos have been edited to support the lies.

a reply to: SkepticOverlord

Excuse me, but videos these days are edited all the time... It doesn't mean it is a lie... BTW, PP ALSO EDITED the videos to include their statement at the beginning of the video...

Video editing doesn't equal to lies... Because then every video that has been edited is a hoax. When you include subtitles, or "closed caption" you are editing a video... When you add a presentation to a video, you are "editing that video"...

The act of editing a video doesn't equal to lies... i guess all videos made by NLBS are also lies and hoaxes... because ALL OF THEM have been heavily edited.

And btw... Making videos shorter doesn't equal to lying either. Because I am certain several of NLBS videos had to be shortened as well to sumarize your points instead of making the videos a bore right?...

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
Video editing doesn't equal to lies...

It does when the editing results in changing the meaning of what the person was saying.

This has been covered. It's not a debate point. Sorry.

originally posted by: SkepticOverlord

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
Video editing doesn't equal to lies...

It does when the editing results in changing the meaning of what the person was saying.

This has been covered. It's not a debate point. Sorry.

...What is haggling to you?...

hag·gle
ˈhaɡəl/
verb
gerund or present participle: haggling

dispute or bargain persistently, especially over the cost of something.
"the two sides are haggling over television rights"
synonyms: barter, bargain, negotiate, dicker, quibble, wrangle; More
beat someone down, drive a hard bargain
"John spent nearly every Saturday morning haggling at flea markets and garage sales"

Origin

www.google.com...=define+haggling

" dispute or bargain persistently, especially over the cost of something."

Was that PP executive haggling yes or no?...

Sorry, but you can't change your narrative when it suits you. Haggling is haggling. it doesn't mean something else. When you haggle for a price, you are expecting a profit. There is no other way around it, sorry.

a reply to: theNLBS

This is one of the best explanations of the Muslim terrorist situation I have ever read. His references to past history are accurate and clear. Not long, easy to understand, and well worth the read. The author of this email is Dr. Emanuel Tanya, a well-known and well-respected psychiatrist. A man, whose family was German aristocracy prior to World War II, owned a number of large industries and estates. When asked how many German people were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward fanaticism.
'Very few people were true Nazis,' he said, 'but many enjoyed the return of German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of the world had come.'
'My family lost everything. I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories.'
'We are told again and again by 'experts' and 'talking heads' that Islam is a religion of peace and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace. Although this unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff meant to make us feel better, and meant to somehow diminish the specter of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam.'
'The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history. It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any one of 50 shooting wars worldwide. It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honor-kill. It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque. It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals. It is the fanatics who teach their young to kill and to become suicide bombers.'
'The hard, quantifiable fact is that the peaceful majority, the 'silent majority,' is cowed and extraneous. Communist Russia was comprised of Russians who just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant. China 's huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill a staggering 70 million people.'
'The average Japanese individual prior to World War II was not a warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians; most killed by sword, shovel, and bayonet. And who can forget Rwanda , which collapsed into butchery? Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were 'peace loving'?
'History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt, yet for all our powers of reason, We often miss the most basic and uncomplicated of points: peace-loving Muslims Have been made irrelevant by their silence. Peace-loving Muslims will become our Enemy if they don't speak up, because like my friend from Germany , they will awaken one day and find that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world Will have begun.'
'Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs, Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late.'
'Now Islamic prayers have been introduced in Toronto and other public schools in Ontario , and, yes, in Ottawa , too, while the Lord's Prayer was removed (due to being so offensive?). The Islamic way may be peaceful for the time being in our country until the fanatics move in.'
'In Australia , and indeed in many countries around the world, many of the most commonly consumed food items have the halal emblem on them. Just look at the back of some of the most popular chocolate bars, and at other food items in your local supermarket. Food on aircraft have the halal emblem just to appease the privileged minority who are now rapidly expanding within the nation's shores.'
'In the U.K, the Muslim communities refuse to integrate and there are now dozens of "no-go" zones within major cities across the country that the police force dare not intrude upon. Sharia law prevails there, because the Muslim community in those areas refuse to acknowledge British law.'
'As for us who watch it all unfold, we must pay attention to the only group that counts - the fanatics who threaten our way of life.'

originally posted by: SkepticOverlord

True story: today I got banned from the discussion portions of Salon.com for being labeled a "Conservative Troll." I was taking issue with their parroting of the media distortions related to Trump, because, you know: TRUTH. And when I disagreed with their labeling of Salon.com as a liberal site, instead I called it maybe fundamentalist progressive or extremist socialist, that was apparently the last straw, and I was banned and many of my posts removed.
...

What that proves is that liberals can disagree amongst themselves, and will even attack each other when their opinions are different.

You were painted with a broad brush in that site, which was wrong. But didn't ATS officially also paint with a broad brush everyone who is anti-abortion as "inciting violence" and "part of the right wing extremism", as well as being the reason for the pp shooting?

a reply to: Indigo5

Put another way...I care not what God someone claims to follow as they murder innocent people.

Except when it comes to people worshiping that god they call government.

Lots of people think our government are terrorists.

Sans 'religion'.

originally posted by: SkepticOverlord

originally posted by: Indigo5
Watching the news and at a Trump Rally, an African American protestor disrupted Trumps speech and one of the Trump Supporters shouts "Light the M*Fer on Fire!"...

While not the right thing to say, there is an historical context to "Light the M*Fer on Fire!" that I'm sure was the inspiration. Sad thing is, the mainstream media isn't giving you the historical context in the mad rush to distorted rhetoric.

Interesting...Do tell?