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Native American Lives Matter!

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posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 09:00 AM
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This opening is intended to get people talking. So, here's my pitch: there is one group that has suffered more than any other group - Native Americans. This is a group that actually did have genocide committed against them. Outcast and often looked at not as modern people in a modern world, but as relics from the past, Native Americans deserve more respect.

Forget the ultra-left wing Black Lives Matter and fight against a real oppression - that against Native Americans.

#NATIVEAMERICANLIVESMATTER




posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 09:04 AM
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originally posted by: scorpio84
This opening is intended to get people talking. So, here's my pitch: there is one group that has suffered more than any other group - Native Americans. This is a group that actually did have genocide committed against them. Outcast and often looked at not as modern people in a modern world, but as relics from the past, Native Americans deserve more respect.

Forget the ultra-left wing Black Lives Matter and fight against a real oppression - that against Native Americans.

#NATIVEAMERICANLIVESMATTER



No arguments from me... Yet, I have to wonder where all that casino money is going?.....



posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 09:07 AM
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a reply to: nwtrucker

It stays in the casino.

Yeah...(some) tribes get casinos. What an excellent trade off for being almost wiped out and forced to live on reservations. Of course, now many (if not most) prefer to live on reservations. I don't blame 'em.



posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 09:17 AM
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a reply to: scorpio84

It stays in the Casino? That can't be right. What would the point of having them in the first place if there was no using the funds for band betterment.

Now that I think about it, Foxwoods, back in the day when it was much smaller, gave huge annual checks to the very small number of band members....I think around 200 at the time(?) and it's way bigger these days.

Some states have band owned (Jointly?) with Casino consortiums. Out my way, Wash. , Ore and Cal. are all on Reservation land.

Some of these funds must be used for the betterment of the first nations.

I know this isn't where you wanted to go with this thread, but it's what came to mind...sorry bout that.



posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 09:26 AM
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a reply to: scorpio84

I have always had a great deal of empathy for the plight of the American Native peoples, including the Hawaiian people. Not so much for losing the war if you will but much more so how we screwed them over time and time again, lying and cheating to take anything of value, particularly their land. We didn't keep a single treaty and decimated entire villages of women and children as well as elderly right here in Ohio in particular, the tribes of the Shawnee had genocide committed upon them with malice of forethought.

There is a reason people like Simon Gurty and Blue Jacket joined and became Chiefs within the Shawnee tribes as they saw intimately the wrongs being perpetrated. Had Daniel Boone come over fully, history might of had a different picture painted.

I agree entirely with the OP, Native American Lives matter way more than they have been accommodated (and Im not talking about Elizabeth Warren)



posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 09:29 AM
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originally posted by: nwtrucker

originally posted by: scorpio84
This opening is intended to get people talking. So, here's my pitch: there is one group that has suffered more than any other group - Native Americans. This is a group that actually did have genocide committed against them. Outcast and often looked at not as modern people in a modern world, but as relics from the past, Native Americans deserve more respect.

Forget the ultra-left wing Black Lives Matter and fight against a real oppression - that against Native Americans.

#NATIVEAMERICANLIVESMATTER





No arguments from me... Yet, I have to wonder where all that casino money is going?.....


Depends on the Casino...

Some tribal members get nice checks. Some don't....

The tribal members of the Casino where I play holdem don't get jack....it's capitalism where the investors make the big bucks and the members of the tribal government all seem to be doing verrrrry well. I love to see them at the table...terrible card players.


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edit on 5-12-2015 by olaru12 because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 09:30 AM
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originally posted by: scorpio84
#NATIVEAMERICANLIVESMATTER

For what it's worth, here in Canada, there is a movement called Idle No More LINK. Don't know if there is an equivalent in the States.

Might I add that First Nations' rights should be supported alongside of those of Blacks, and any other marginalised community...not instead of, or in spite of them.
edit on 5-12-2015 by JohnnyCanuck because: ...just because!



posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 09:53 AM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 10:12 AM
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a reply to: scorpio84
There was a group like that back in the 60's and 70's. Sadly, AIM is now a shadow of its once glorious self, thanks to COINTELPRO and FBI harassment.



posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 10:13 AM
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a reply to: WeRpeons
I don't know what powwow you went to but the ones I go to don't allow drugs. If you smelled something like pot, it was most likely that they were burning sage. It smells somewhat the same.



posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 10:22 AM
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originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck

originally posted by: scorpio84
#NATIVEAMERICANLIVESMATTER

For what it's worth, here in Canada, there is a movement called Idle No More LINK. Don't know if there is an equivalent in the States.

Might I add that First Nations' rights should be supported alongside of those of Blacks, and any other marginalised community...not instead of, or in spite of them.


There is. I met a Native America activist in Pennsylvania who told me about Idle No More. I think it is a global movement, at least in it's goals.



posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 10:26 AM
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originally posted by: scorpio84
This opening is intended to get people talking. So, here's my pitch: there is one group that has suffered more than any other group - Native Americans. This is a group that actually did have genocide committed against them. Outcast and often looked at not as modern people in a modern world, but as relics from the past, Native Americans deserve more respect.

Forget the ultra-left wing Black Lives Matter and fight against a real oppression - that against Native Americans.

#NATIVEAMERICANLIVESMATTER



I was just talking about this with a coworker yesterday.

A lot of people don't know that at least in the US, Native Americans have some of the highest poverty rates, substance abuse, and high school drop out rates compared to ethnic groups. The latter is the highest of any ethnic group.

These facts are off the radar of most people.



posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 10:27 AM
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Isn't it also the case that native Americans still often live in deep poverty?



posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 10:27 AM
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a reply to: scorpio84

It's my belief that there are more Natives living off reserves then on . It's a hard demographic to get a clear picture on because of the way the data is collected or not collected . Heck most of my relatives were shocked to find out they were even Native .



posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 10:37 AM
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originally posted by: Skid Mark
a reply to: WeRpeons
I don't know what powwow you went to but the ones I go to don't allow drugs. If you smelled something like pot, it was most likely that they were burning sage. It smells somewhat the same.


Sage and Sweet Grass, more than likely. It's used for cleansing in many ceremonials. Ive Sweet Grass growing in my back yard. This is what it looks like:



Agreed with not allowing drugs at powwows. Any ceremonies I've been involved in required being clean of drugs for an extended period of time prior to any ceremony, including sweat lodge.

As for #NativeAmericanLivesMatter... did you know that, in Canada, they are the fastest growing demographic?



posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 10:44 AM
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a reply to: masqua
Yes. Sage and sweet grass. I forgot about the sweet grass. I don't know how because I have some with my regalia. Thanks for the pics. I never saw it growing. I think there is some here. I'll have to harvest some one of these days.
The powwows and ceremonies I've been to, you have to be drug and alcohol free at least a week. That's in Indiana, Michigan, and Ohio though. Customs differ according to geographical location and nation to nation.



posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 10:44 AM
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I don't know what powwow you went to but the ones I go to don't allow drugs. If you smelled something like pot, it was most likely that they were burning sage. It smells somewhat the same.


Lol, maybe It was sage. We were thinking they were allowed to smoke marijuana on the reservations.



posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 10:46 AM
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While I don't like the thread title here are my .02 cents..

While living in Arizona I did a lot of exploring around the state. Some of the saddest places were Indian Reservations.




Havasu Falls, part of the Havasupai Indian Reservation, is one of the most beautiful places in the state. However you have to essentially walk through the "ghetto" to arrive there. The mules and livestock are malnourished and very sickly looking. Everything is in disrepair.. When you enter the village there a giant "F YOU" written on the wall.

They make there money selling passes to this beautiful place while collection from torusits who opt to have their packs muled in or helicopter'd in. Oh, that helicopter supplies EVERYTHING to the village. However, it's nothing good. Just booze and junk food.

From where I used to live in Tempe. I had access to three casinos; The Talk Stick, Fort McDowell Casino and Casino Arizona. The talking stick is the really, really nice one. The latter two are terribly depressing with Casino Arizona being the worst in my opinion.

At these lesser two casinos it's cheaper and that's where you find most of the Native Americans. I can't stay wether they get a kick back from the casino but I would imagine if a tribe was involved, everyone within that tribe would benefit.

But greed is something they learned from the white man.....so who knows.



posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 12:44 PM
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a reply to: WeRpeons
It's legal on some reservations. As with off reservation living, I'm sure they smoke it anyway. It's better than drinking by a long shot.



posted on Dec, 5 2015 @ 02:04 PM
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Did we really need to compare the plights of native with BLM, terrible thread, people living in poverty deserve more respect that is shown.

Shame on you scorpio for your never ending threads trying to paint whole groups in a certain image.




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