How to bypass karma..

originally posted by: archongel
How to bypass karma..

Anything done in unconditional Love transcends all (imaginary) Karma!

originally posted by: donktheclown
a reply to: archongel

archangel:seeing the man is blind, he does nothing to stop him in any way, and the blind man falls into the pit and dies. in this situation, who is to blame? would the man get negative karma simply for inaction?

donktheclown:I have no grip on the absolute workings of Karma, I don't know who would, but if you watch anyone fall in a pit when you could have stopped them, you'll probably spend some time "working" on the repercussions of that later...

No good deed goes unpunished. I think living guilt free is the answer; as one automatically is disentangled from others emotions, manipulations and acts entirely with selfish will (no one disturbing that peace of mind).

Karma, is nothing more than guilty people, trying to escape guilt, without confessing guilt.
Nobody escapes justice. And everyone is guilty of something. Karma, is a cowards way out of reality.

originally posted by: murphy22
Karma, is nothing more than guilty people, trying to escape guilt, without confessing guilt.
Nobody escapes justice. And everyone is guilty of something. Karma, is a cowards way out of reality.

Karma accumulation is not a good thing as it is negative energy attached to you by your missdeeds. It is something to avoid; like digging a deep spiritual hole you will never climb out of (sticky mess). This is why one reincarnates to have another chance to disperse those negatives formed/attached to you in past lives by being a better human this time around (or some think is the process).

a reply to: vethumanbeing

Karma accumulation is not a good thing as it is negative energy attached to you by your missdeeds. It is something to avoid; like digging a deep spiritual hole you will never climb out of (sticky mess). This is why one reincarnates to have another chance to disperse those negatives formed/attached to you in past lives by being a better human this time around (or some think is the process).

Very wise indeed. I think people have a tendency to find negative connotations with the word "Karma." Karma, to me, isn't a checks and balances mechanism, powered by an external justice system - outside of ones self, it's your own personal justice system created to show you what's wrong or right with your actions, according to your soul's journey. Eventually, we'll cure all of our disease of the mind, although it may take a while.

originally posted by: donktheclown
a reply to: vethumanbeing

vhb:Karma accumulation is not a good thing as it is negative energy attached to you by your missdeeds. It is something to avoid; like digging a deep spiritual hole you will never climb out of (sticky mess). This is why one reincarnates to have another chance to disperse those negatives formed/attached to you in past lives by being a better human this time around (or some think is the process).

donktheclown: Very wise indeed. I think people have a tendency to find negative connotations with the word "Karma." Karma, to me, isn't a checks and balances mechanism, powered by an external justice system - outside of ones self, it's your own personal justice system created to show you what's wrong or right with your actions, according to your soul's journey. Eventually, we'll cure all of our disease of the mind, although it may take a while.

As you say is entirely personal to ones own soul journey (they just don't know it?) which is why they have to re-experience the same journey again and again. A personal justice system suited to that soul as it travels toward enlightenment.

originally posted by: namelesss

originally posted by: archongel
How to bypass karma..

Anything done in unconditional Love transcends all (imaginary) Karma!

That is a platitude few of us westerners can comprehend.

a reply to: EviLCHiMP

If you are born your karma is death. If you don't eat your karma is hunger. Karma is the reasonable result of a reasonable action--karma is common sense

all karma is is movement, energy; there is no inherent good/evil component to it. The idea that Karma is visited upon you in this life or the next is akin to the Judaeo/Christian/Islamic heaven hell paradise reward punishment. Only Its an eastern flavoured controller mechanism no different than the Western one.

Both philosophies are usefull in keeping the populace in check - clever tools by the custodial controllers.

originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: EviLCHiMP

Someone:
If you are born your karma is death. If you don't eat your karma is hunger. Karma is the reasonable result of a reasonable action--karma is common sense

TheConstruKctionofLight: all karma is is movement, energy; there is no inherent good/evil component to it. The idea that Karma is visited upon you in this life or the next is akin to the Judaeo/Christian/Islamic heaven hell paradise reward punishment. Only Its an eastern flavoured controller mechanism no different than the Western one.

Karmic circular energy that is focused on the negative is not a good energy. Karma is based in the repeating of ill begotten patterns of thinking; no one gains from this as one is STUCK. This has no thing to do with fear based reward/punishment as the ego has no place within the Karma existence (it is what it is [your fate and destiny] to be an untouchable forever). Karma has nothing to do with Western Dogma that tells one there is a hell awaiting your soul if you do not comply. Neither are true those responsible for this manipulation of the human need to be exposed.

Trying to figure the nuances of karma may be a daunting task.

It’s something I wouldn’t try to do


All Ill say is that ultimately karma or anything probably has an energy signature that would ultimately make Karma easy to administer

An energy signature would have that energy following you all through this matrix

originally posted by: Willtell
Trying to figure the nuances of karma may be a daunting task.

It’s something I wouldn’t try to do.
All Ill say is that ultimately karma or anything probably has an energy signature that would ultimately make Karma easy to administer

Not so daunting; all one has to do is recognize the negative energy pattern. Use free will to escape the wheel's signature.

originally posted by: Willtell
An energy signature would have that energy following you all through this matrix

If you created it yes; because you LIKE IT; follow me as follow can.

originally posted by: vethumanbeing

originally posted by: namelesss

originally posted by: archongel
How to bypass karma..

Anything done in unconditional Love transcends all (imaginary) Karma!

That is a platitude few of us westerners can comprehend.

Platitude?

plat·i·tude
ˈpladəˌt(y)o͞od/
noun
noun: platitude; plural noun: platitudes

a remark or statement, especially one with a moral content, that has been used too often to be interesting or thoughtful.
"she began uttering liberal platitudes"
synonyms: cliché, truism, commonplace, banality, old chestnut, bromide, inanity, banal/trite/hackneyed/stock phrase
"boring us with his platitudes"

Not sure my statement really is a 'platitude'.

Besides, there are supposed to be many Xtians in the west, and that was the essence of Jesus' teaching!
So 'the West' must have some vague notion, anyway!

Unconditional Love = Enlightenment = Salvation...
All 'paths' converge Here! *__-

a reply to: vethumanbeing

Karmic circular energy that is focused on the negative is not a good energy. Karma is based in the repeating of ill begotten patterns of thinking; no one gains from this as one is STUCK. This has no thing to do with fear based reward/punishment as the ego has no place within the Karma existence (it is what it is [your fate and destiny] to be an untouchable forever). Karma has nothing to do with Western Dogma that tells one there is a hell awaiting your soul if you do not comply. Neither are true those responsible for this manipulation of the human need to be exposed.

Look even the traditional definition defines it as ..."in Hinduism and Buddhism) the sum of a person's actions in this and previous states of existence, viewed as deciding their fate in future existences"

Karma is energy, activity. if you beleive that one will reincarnate to balance precious misdeds or to "burn off karma" thats your choice. I stand by the statement that Eastern based afterlife "judgements/balancings" are no different than the resurrection into paradise of Western religions. Both put a fear into people to disempower them , and to create FEAR. Somthing lurking on this planet thrives on fear.

If you cant see how the idea of being a perpetual untouchable and being in a slave to the Brahmain class is another control mechanism, a smart weapon keeping man down wll then you will never be free.

According to Jesus:

"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?" - Matthew 7:15-16

"For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes.

A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.

" - Luke 6:44-45

If we plant thorns (pain/negativity), then we will not get grapes (sweetness/positivity).

We have to plant the seeds of the fruits we want to get.

If you plant the seeds of Love, then you will get the Fruits of Love.

The more seeds, the more fruits.


The energy you send out, you get back...

It's called Law of Attraction, Karma, Sowing and Reaping, etc.


It's The Law of Cause and Effect. Without it, no action would have any effect and nothing would ever happen.

Love is loving. Love is Alive, Conscious, and Flowing.

a reply to: archongel

Your scenarios pose complex psychological and philosophical theories, for instance, what if the blind man wished to end his life due to extreme pain and hardship and the bystander did not allow that to come about? Without knowing the intent of others' our actions or inactions cannot be judged properly either by ourselves or by others.

originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: vethumanbeing

vhb: Karmic circular energy that is focused on the negative is not a good energy. Karma is based in the repeating of ill begotten patterns of thinking; no one gains from this as one is STUCK. This has no thing to do with fear based reward/punishment as the ego has no place within the Karma existence (it is what it is [your fate and destiny] to be an untouchable forever). Karma has nothing to do with Western Dogma that tells one there is a hell awaiting your soul if you do not comply. Neither are true those responsible for this manipulation of the human need to be exposed.

TheConstruKctionofLight: Look even the traditional definition defines it as ..."in Hinduism and Buddhism) the sum of a person's actions in this and previous states of existence, viewed as deciding their fate in future existences"

TheConstuKionofLight: Karma is energy, activity. if you beleive that one will reincarnate to balance precious misdeds or to "burn off karma" thats your choice. I stand by the statement that Eastern based afterlife "judgements/balancings" are no different than the resurrection into paradise of Western religions. Both put a fear into people to disempower them , and to create FEAR. Somthing lurking on this planet thrives on fear.

Yes and those past existences then describe the future incarnations (failure after failure) because God did not give them direction; a path to follow to gain enlightenment. Why do I know this as a westerner and they do not? Karma is an energy that is individualized to that SELF experiencing it. Of course there is something lurking here that thrives upon human FEAR energy (our demi-god creators feed upon this; the negative of uncertainty/hatred).

TCKL:
If you cant see how the idea of being a perpetual untouchable and being in a slave to the Brahmain class is another control mechanism, a smart weapon keeping man down wll then you will never be free.

How does this become my personal problem/endeavor? Do you feed starving Africans? The Brahman class has not risen to its potential.

I have always been of the thought that karma was personal. Not what YOU think but what has been going on in their head. It can't be bypassed anymore than one's conscience could. Psychopaths are except.

originally posted by: intrepid
I have always been of the thought that karma was personal. Not what YOU think but what has been going on in their head. It can't be bypassed anymore than one's conscience could. Psychopaths are except.

When focused NO; hard tack just to corral that very odd genius intellect.