Originally posted by Indigo_Child
Saint4god,
What exactly is Christianity?
The belief in God and that he sent his son to save and teach mankind.
Originally posted by Indigo_Child
It seems like everyone has their own interpretation of it?
There are variances, but when it comes down to it, one must read and understand what is written.
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There are catholics, protestants, jehovas witnesses, fundamental Christians, Mormons etc.
Out of the catagories above, I've heard Jehovas Witnesses and Mormons 'add' things not written according to the Old and New Testament.
Again, the qualifiers of salvation should not deviate from John 3:16, else is not Christianity.
Originally posted by Indigo_Child
The bible itself has been revised so many times by the church. Whose religion is it?
This is a thread on it's own. I'll edit this and include it as soon as I find it. My claim is it has not been re-written, though translated once
and includes only the important content.
Originally posted by Indigo_Child
Where does Jesus figure in all of this mess?
Isaiah and Zechariah (Old Testament), Matthew, Mark, Luke, John and his message follows thereafter. I'm sure there's more but that's the best I
have for now. Jesus is the saviour and teacher. My job is to point back up to God, the things Jesus said, and help others.
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Where is the sense in this nonsense?
It's a lot to take in and seems surreal that these things happen. But understanding the 'why' of it all, the reasoning tends to click.
Originally posted by Indigo_Child
Tell me if this is true or false: At death, god judges you, and sends you to either heaven or hell.
At death, if you are not saved, then yes, God judges you and sends you to either heaven or hell. The judgement from what I understand is very harsh.
I have verses to back-up if you'd like me to provide.
Originally posted by Indigo_Child
According to the Roman Catholic church, purgatory is a place of suffering to expiate venial sins. And limbo is a place of unbaptized souls and a place
of those who lived before the coming of christ. In other words it's more nonsense.
I'll agree with you on this point. The reasoning for having a purgatory or limbo doesn't make sense to me, nor can I find it in the Bible.
Originally posted by Indigo_Child
Isn't it very conveniant for you; that you can rid of your sins by simplying bathing in water that the church calls holy.
I don't believe this is true.
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By accepting Jesus as gods son.
That's it! That's the one!
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By saying x number of hellmarys.
Interesting choice of words. I think it's called Hail Mary's, but no, don't see what the purpose of that would be nor find it in the Bible.
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Yet, according to another book you would?
What do you mean? Sorry if I caused confusion, I use Book interchangably from Bible.
Originally posted by Indigo_Child
I gave you an example of how your reaction was not unlike the reaction Jesus received when he said he was the son of god and god. More later:
Fair enough, I guess people haven't changed over 2,000 years. Although, I feel the difference is his claim was true.
Originally posted by Indigo_Child
I was not quoting Jesus. I was allowing Jesus to speak through me. I am god. I am the son of God. I am Jesus. I am the way. I am the light. I am the
truth. You will only reach God through me.
That's funny, I ask God to speak through me too, yet what we're saying to each other conflicts. The truth cannot conflict. Here's what I say: I
am not Jesus.
Originally posted by Indigo_Child
If I said this in front of the Roman catholic church. I would be first ridiculed, then condemned and then punished - just like Jesus.
Perhaps, but your death would not be the salvation of mankind. I too am awaiting persecution at some time. It's nearly inevitable when you talk
about helping people find their place in eternity. My death will not bring salvation to mankind because it a has already happened and he has already
been resurrected.
Originally posted by Indigo_Child
This is what you and your church have not understood about Jesus's teachings. You have completely missed the point. What have you learned about
Jesus, if you emulate the same thinking that lead to his crufixion? Nothing.
I would be so honored to be the one to save all of mankind through my death and accend to heaven, but that's not something that's going to happen
because it already has, nor is it necessary, nor am I conceived of God, nor am I without a multitude of sins, nor nor nor....
Originally posted by Indigo_Child
You belittle god yourself by limiting the unlimited. You render god senseless by making sense of him. You render him powerless by physicalizing and
mortalizing him. You separate him from his creation.
I cannot explain away God. I can come to best fit conclussions based on what I've read if it isn't spelled out in black and white. Most of the
time though, if it is not spelled out, I try not to shove my opinions into the matter. God is not physical in a way we can understand it, nor mortal.
Hence why a lot of people think Christians are looney because as they know it a person cannot be 'half-God', perform miracles, die and be
resurrected for eternity.
Originally posted by Indigo_Child
Do you really think the human concepts of procreation apply to God?
I'm pretty sure they do not. I cannot explain physically what happened between the Holy Spirit and Mary. I'm not concerned about 'how', I'm
concerned about 'why'. I get my answer in the following chapters.
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Do you think God is involved in human politics?
I doubt it. There was a lot of talk about His kingdom not being of this earth so I'm not sure why politics would concern him.
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Do you seriously think he has a son?
Yes.
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If Jesus is gods son? Then who are we?
His creation.
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How can we be the children of god, if Jesus himself is gods son?
We are treated as his children because of the strength of his love.
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Which is the truth? Are we the children of god? Or is Jesus the son of god?
Jesus is the son of God.
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What was Jesus? Mortal.
I disagree.
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Who are we? Mortal.
We can choose to receive eternal life by accepting him and his son.
Originally posted by Indigo_Child
If Jesus is the son of god, then so are we.
How do you figure? Was there a prophesy I missed about you coming and being the light of the world who will save all of mankind? Did you have a
virgin mother who was conceived by the Holy Spirit?
Originally posted by Indigo_Child
If Jesus is god, then so are we. And that is what Jesus taught. And that is what I learnt.
What verse?
Originally posted by Indigo_Child
So try this next time you commit a sin "I accept God and I accept that I am his son" because that is the way; the truth; the light; and how you can
get to god. "Jesus" separates you from god.
I will not tell God something that's not true, nor would I deny Jesus his place as Son of God. I dial direct when I talk to God, I don't call Jesus
and ask him to connect me.
Originally posted by Indigo_Child
You are a part of him. In the same way your parents are a part of you. You are both the son of god and god. You cannot make sense of god. You can only
know it. All that is - is god. You are god. All physical realities are dualities, meaning, each is relative to the other, each is separated from the
other. In the reality of god - there is no duality -- there is no separation -- we are one with him.
Perhaps again someday this may be true, I don't know, we'll see, but as for now we are all here on this earth, not dwelling with God.
Originally posted by Indigo_Child
This makes more sense than the nonsense you are taught by church of humans beings. All there is - is spirituality - and spirituality is the truth that
you are a soul - a part that makes the whole, the supreme soul and light, that we call god. You exist as everything at the same time. There is no
space and there is no time ------- and there is NO sin. The sin is what you create in your mind. And just as easily expiate with your mind. It's not
the holy water. It's not accepting god or Jesus. It's not saying x number of Hellmarys --- It's your mind. And the hell and heavens are in your
mind too. You judge yourself.
I think this is where we have a massive divergence.
Originally posted by Indigo_Child
You know Hilter went to heaven(If you did not think I was in league with the devil; think again) Because he did not actually sin. The people sinned
for him. All he did was talk. And in his mind there were no sins to cleanse.
From what I understand he did have an early aged background involving hearing the truth about God and chose not to follow that path. To say he
didn't know about God would be historically inaccurate.
Originally posted by Indigo_Child
Accept yourself as god, and your reality as your universe and your mind as it's cause. If you cannot accept that, then accept it through me. Or will
it take for me to be crucified before a huge crowd of *insert religions or religions* before you accept me as your saviour? Please, because you know
what. I am the modern Jesus. I say screw that.
I'd say you may have a case if you and Jesus did not have conflicting information and reasoning.
Sorry, had to throw that in. 
Do you actually read his posts and his incessant anti-christian remarks? Anyway this complex love affair is your own business. I am not going to
be Jenny Jones between you two. 
. For example, your self declaration of god brought about some angry feelings. I know it's not right
and stop before thoughts become action. I'm working in clearing these thoughts as well. 
