I don't understand evolution.

a reply to: Subnatural

I think they just want you to be a bit more mindful before you establish. It doesn't take much to respect, right?

And this thread is a perfect example of the intelligence I'm supposed to repect?
Respect without integrity is fear.

When evolution is finally vindicated, when men finally produces that common
ancestor and I believe someday, someone will. They will fall to their knees and worship
him.

originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: spygeek

You have not answered my question.

Okay, I understand that the theory of evolution is incomplete
and not neccessary for God in any way as a tool he would use for
the purpose of creation. So evolution could only be compatible
with God and Angels if it takes a back seat in their reality as
something men dreamed up to dismiss them out right. Making it
obvious that people like yourself aren't innocent in their disbelief.
You would want to kill God, if you weren't able to deny him.

I fail to see the logic in your answer, the theory of evolution does nothing to dismiss God or angels. There is no reason for it to not be a tool He uses in creation.

You speak to me as if I am antireligious or in denial of God. I have said nothing to suggest this or that I would want to kill Him if I couldn't deny him.

I am over this one sided conversation, I should have stopped responding to this thread pages ago.

Live long and prosper randy.

a reply to: spygeek

Well you don't have to take it all personal.
I mean just follow my example.

originally posted by: Vector99
Once you stop thinking of evolution as a fish turning into a bird, you will understand and grasp it infinitely better.

re-quote

a reply to: Vector99

It's hard to be sure of what you're getting on about.

originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: Vector99

It's hard to be sure of what you're getting on about.

Same can be said to you.

Fish don't turn into birds.

a reply to: Vector99

And I wasn't sure you didn't know what you were talking about.
That's why I hesitated to correct you. I don't know you from Adam.

Oh and neither do dinosaurs because the all got whacked 66 or 36
million years ago.

originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: Vector99

And I wasn't sure you didn't know what you were talking about.
That's why I hesitated to correct you. I don't know you from Adam.

So do you really not understand everything involved in evolution? Or do you just want(demand) the fish to bird breakthrough?

a reply to: Vector99

What part of I don't understand evolution, do you not understand?
What I don't understand about evolution is how the theory is the
only thing I ever see evolve.

originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: Vector99

What part of I don't understand evolution, do you not understand?
What I don't understand about evolution is how the theory is the
only thing I ever see evolve.

So observational evolution, the things we have seen in our lifetime of species changing, which is all very well documented, what would YOU define that as?

That information is very crucial

a reply to: Vector99

Adaptation, unless species have changed into different species.
Then that's a metamorphosis. Like a man into a wolf and I'm not
even sure that doesn't happen. But evolution wouldn't allow that.
So I guess evolution is less scary, woof!

originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: Vector99

Adaptation, unless species have changed into different species.
Then that's a metamorphosis. Like a man into a wolf and I'm not
even sure that doesn't happen. But evolution wouldn't allow that.
So I guess evolution is less scary, woof!

Adaptation and evolution go hand in hand. Good, you understand adaptation. That is step 1.

When the changes become permanent, it borders the evolution rank. It can STILL remain in the adaptation rank because it CAN be undone. It is when these changes become part of a species continuity it becomes evolution.

So you do understand evolution, you just don't know it.

Just to tickle you, I actually believe evolution happened at the singular-celled level, that second cell developed decided it all.

a reply to: Vector99

So you do understand evolution, you just don't know it.

Don't be given me no A in evolution now?

originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: Vector99

So you do understand evolution, you just don't know it.

Don't be given me no A in evolution now?

C-

You didn't show your work

a reply to: randyvs

Why not dare to deny ignorance on a personal note? I like it, what harm could it possibly bring?

Mind the missing link, keep calm until it's there and another materialistic theory is finally solved 'conclusive' within it's self-fulfilling paradigme.
Science can be soo strange and 'reality' kinda twisted...

Evolution, as I witnessed it personally through experience, is naturally a common factor. But I doubt it's non-intentional or driven by random mutations and survival of the best adapted only. Who said life is just existence in this dimension and where can I find the evidence for that theory? In hell?
Damnd... I can't bring myself to believe in chance without meaning as well, we only know 5% of all unknown unknowns. No world formula to explain everything without a single shred of doubt with (yet), there is so much to explore.
Yes indeed, Hegel was no whacko either:

Metaphysics thinks of beings as such, that is, in general. Metaphysics thinks of beings as such, as a whole. Metaphysics thinks of the Beings of beings both in the ground-giving unity of what is most general, what is indifferently valid everywhere, and also in the unity of the all that accounts for the ground, that is of the All-Highest. The Being of beings is thus thought of in advance as the grounding ground. Therefore all metaphysics is at bottom, and from the ground up, what grounds, what gives account of the ground, what is called to account by the ground, and finally what calls the ground to account.4

www.american.edu... (PDF P. 7)

When I see this glory of invention and development called evolution, I sense pure will and light inside this sack of dark blood and flesh.
I feel it's all one, we simply don't have the perspective to see it all... yet(?)



Funny read though, in various ways.

a reply to: CB328

He's proud of being stupid, hence his bait threads.

He takes trolling to a whole new level.

I don't know Randy...you seem to understand evolution perfectly to me...

A lie that also just happens to make your life far
less complicated and more comfy for precious little you.

A2D

originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: Blissful

I'M OFFENDED AT THE IGNORANCE OF THE ABOVE POST. GET THE # OFF MY PLANET.

It's really this kind of drama that examples ignorance at it's best
that should be banned.

If I were a scientist, I'd be angry at some of the drivel in this thread as well. He may have said it bluntly and rudely, but he was correct. Murgatroid's post was pure ignorance. Calling "darwinism" a tool of mass mind control is blatantly ridiculous, I'm sorry. We've seen throughout history that religion is a much better mind control tool. If anything, evolutionary science has divided more people, which makes zero sense if it is a trick of the devil to control people.

I have still never gotten a satisfactory answer as to how the science of evolution controls anybody, let alone "the masses". It's science, not banter. It doesn't change the way anybody lives their lives. It doesn't change most people's religious views, and it doesn't alter their moral codes. Folks just hate it because it conflicts with biblical literalism, which is a silly view in itself.

originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: Vector99

Adaptation, unless species have changed into different species.
Then that's a metamorphosis. Like a man into a wolf and I'm not
even sure that doesn't happen. But evolution wouldn't allow that.
So I guess evolution is less scary, woof!

Ah the classic straw man of redefining terminology to fit your world view. Adaptation is part of evolution. Evolution is ADAPTATION of populations. Since you admitted you don't understand this, I won't fault you for it. But now you know, and knowing is half the battle. The real question is, will you take this new knowledge and apply it to conversations in the future, or will you pretend it was never mentioned and go on in willful ignorance? We're trying to help you understand, but if you blindly reject every explanation given, we'll never get anywhere with upgrading your understanding of the topic.

a reply to: Barcs

I have still never gotten a satisfactory answer as to how the science of evolution controls anybody, let alone "the masses". It's science, not banter.

Mengele worked for 'his' science of evolution as well, didn't he?
The concept of genetics and eugenics controled masses as well, we're talking about ethics and moral scruples in science here.

Booktip: The Physicists (Dürrenmatt)