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originally posted by: s1ngular1ty
I'll be honest, if any of them were literally faked, the live television shooting down in Virginia would be the one that I would point you in the direction of. That's the one I've really looked into as of late, and I'll be honest, I really did find things that bkthered me significantly. No bias going into said research, just saying.
originally posted by: solongandgoodnight
I have no evidence since this is only a gut feeling. Many of these shootings have just felt OFF. Perhaps I've finally graduated to conspiracy theory nut job, who knows.
It's just that with the recent shooting in Oregon, the gunman asked people if they were Christians then shot them. This seemed incredibly strange, or "not right" to me. It is fairly obvious, to me at least, that the government really would like to take guns out of citizens' hands. As a side note, the debate on who's right and who's wrong on that issue is not the topic.
Back to Oregon. When I heard this, I thought to myself, If I were wanting to get a true shot at getting a gun ban, what would be the most effective way? Perhaps bring religion into the picture? Maybe so. If someone could convince the religious groups to get completely behind banning guns, or enforcing incredibly strict laws, wouldn't it be more likely to get pushed through? Many Americans view America as a Christian nation still.
Point being, some of these shooting just don't seem right to me. That is why I've chosen to put it in skunk works. I'm not for banning guns, but if it happens honestly then so be it. But if orchestrated massacres are the method to get it done, then we are in more trouble then we can possibly imagine. Again, no proof. So to the skunk bin it goes.
originally posted by: JAY1980
We are still for the most part in the dark about Sandy Hook. No footage of Adam in or around the school. No footage of a mass evacuation of the school.
originally posted by: yorkshirelad
originally posted by: Rosinitiate
It seems just as manufactured as ISIS. Funny how when the government needs a problem so they can intact their solution, one always seems to rise to occasion doesn't it? Curious and curiouser I say!
Only to a paranoid US citizen who still does not get it and will invent conspiracy after conspiracy instead of facing up to the consequences of freely available weapons that have one purpose.....to kill.
Nutters kill and their excuse will be utterly illogical (hint - because they are nutters DUH!)
same thing in south carolina he was 100 % accurate with no training. Seems unlikely.
originally posted by: SteadyC
a reply to: Edumakated
Have you ever tried to herd a bunch of little kids? That is what seemed odd to me about Sandy Hook. Handguns aren't that accurate and people generally disperse in situations, so I found it odd that many kids could be kept still long enough to kill them that quickly and precisely.
I'm not saying such a horrific incident couldn't have taken place, but how can a hail of bullets be sprayed into every classroom result in two dozen deaths but ONLY ONE INJURY??????!!!!! Again, I can't prove that it didn't happen, but that was the first thing that made me go, 'HUH?!'
originally posted by: Indigo5
originally posted by: tsctsc
a reply to: JRedBeard
Wikipedea (en.wikipedia.org...) stats says:
- Between 1990 and 2007 (17 years) the average number of shootings in school in America was 3.78 per year.
- Between 2008 (Obama's first term) and today, this avarege skyrocketed to 15.75
Uh...can I have a link please?
Tried to find your stats. You cited Wiki and I found "List of school shootings" on Wiki..
You might notice they differentiate between "School Shootings" and "School Attacks"..
School Shootings includes any shootings on school grounds..Suicides..arguments..gang fights...a crossing guard that caught in a drive by...even a 3 year old in TX who accidentally brought his dads gun to school..
School "Attacks" are gunmen showing up with the intent of killing multiple people..
Lastly...Obama's term began Jan. 2009, not 2008...
Just trying to sort out what stats and years you are working with