Sanders: America Was Founded On ‘Racist Principles. That’s A Fact.

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: neo96

Which was written by people who owned other people and didn't let women contribute other then opening their legs and cooking the dinner.

Yup, all men were equal!

Yo did or did not the framers not include the amendment process ?

They did.

The constitution as it was, was a hard sell.

a reply to: xuenchen

The Alinsky tactics might not be good enough to get a victory.

I am unfamiliar with "Alinksy tactics" except insofar as others have said that YOU use those tactics.

So, excuse the hell out of me if I don't understand your vast wit, philosophical nuances, and repellent statements.

I'm so done.
I'm taking my ball and going home also.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: xuenchen


The bait you're using on your hook smells bad.

The bait on Sanders hook smells rotten from Denmark.

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: neo96

Ya fine add it was sexiest too. Doesn't change your red herring. Sanders doesn't hate all 1%ers and doubt you can prove it so. Asking people to play by the same rules as others isn't really hate. You can talk against some one with out hating them.

Of course he doesn't hate 1%ers, he's gonna have to get cozy with em to fund his campaign.

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: Sremmos80

So what good is low wages when you have to spend every last nickel and end up a bust-out after 30 or 40 years of hard work?

That's the very idea behind 401k's and Ira's that keep pace with inflation.

Two things Sanders doesn't like very much, and has his way wouldn't exist.

a reply to: neo96

Whatever. You're quoting/sourcing a duplicitous talking head who was Dick Cheney's advisor, and is now a FOX clown.

That's a fail on so many levels I can barely comprehend it.

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978

originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: neo96

I would call the genocide of thousands of Native Americans " racist ". Wouldn't you ?

To assume Pilgrims lined up and shot the Native Americans.

Is definitely how American haters love to rewrite history...isn't it ?

We know it wasn't the pilgrims, they aren't to blame.

Expansionism is to blame. The white man was not happy with the land they already possessed they needed more, all of it in fact. Well almost, except the reservations, nice touch!!

If you wanna blame someone for the way things were blame yourselves. You guys in the UK bought slaves in the first place, Secondly you Brits bargained with some of the Indian tribes to attack your rebelling countryman.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Actually it was a reference from WIKI.

Don't believe Tucker writes for them or is owned by Fox.

But hey never mind.

A self-described democratic socialist,[6][7][8][9] he favors policies similar to those of social democratic parties in Europe, particularly those instituted by the Nordic countries.[

en.wikipedia.org...

That's where the Rotten in Denmark comment came from. I doubt anyone else has made that reference.

Sanders is known as a leading progressive voice on issues such as income inequality,[7] universal healthcare, parental leave, climate change,[16] LGBT rights, and campaign finance reform.[17]

Obama 2.0.

He is also outspoken on civil rights and civil liberties, and has been particularly critical of mass surveillance policies such as the USA PATRIOT Act,[20]

How now we all know civil liberties don't mean squat to Sanders. It's perfectly acceptable to discriminate, and violate the rights of gun owners, and rich folks.

Especially them rich folks, and he is an anti gunner, and we all know Sanders hasn't spoken out about Carters FISA Act, or Clinton's Omnibus Counter Terrorism Acts that came DECADES before the PA.

en.wikipedia.org...

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Sanders shouldn't even be talking about racism. Attacks on the founding of the U.S. won't cut the mustard.

He needs to focus on economic issues and how to propose remedies that will be positive impacts on the majority of Americans.

And he needs to address issues that affect Americans on the world scale.

The entire planet was racist, in one form or another, back then.
To deny that just basically ignores our collective history and defines Hippocracy.

It is still here, but morphed into self-righteous ideals that still serve as a control mechanism for some very dubious PTB.

a reply to: xuenchen

Statements of fact are not attacks unless you choose to consider them as such.

Try it some time - consider that things you don't like are not actually attacks.....it takes quite a load off!

a reply to: Aloysius the Gaul

Hey don't blame me if Sanders can't focus on issues without going off on tangents and giving all opponents ammunition.

It's not my fault.

It's his.

a reply to: xuenchen

Oh his solution is:

Get rid of wall street.

Increase the regulatory burdens on business.

Then just rob from the rich, and spread the 'wealth' around.

Only there is going to be less 'wealth' because more people will be put out of work, Thus expanding social programs even more than they already are.

Destroy what's left of the private health coverage insurance.

Destroy whats left of gun rights there are in this country. As gun control puts people out of work.

Then to pay for it all take from the haves give to those who want.

That's not gonna pay for it.

So more money is going to be printed thus devaluing the dollar even more than it already is.

The trade gap increases since we will be shipping less goods over seas,.

Then print more treasuries to cover the spending short fall.

That isn't gonna cut it.

So we will be borrowing more from China.

We will be borrowing more from Japan.

Then that's when the next taxes come.

Straight up a socialist has no real solutions for us.

Only run out of others peoples money.

a reply to: neo96

Sanders is missing the point that all levels of government depend heavily on the bond markets too.

All deficit over spending is covered by government bond issues (as in borrowing and paying interest).

How can he get away from that system I wonder?

I bet he votes "Yes" on all the appropriation bills AYE.

The founding of America was not based on racism.

"All men are created equal" means exactly what it states. They believed the blacks were equal to themselves, but they could not enforce and disband slavery while attempting to unify the colonies to organize a resistance against the Imperial UK.

While there were many, MANY atrocities done to the Natives in America, there was never genocide. 80-90% died from disease that was accidentally introduced to them by the Europeans. Even the blankets infected with small pox is unfounded. To say white men committed genocide against the natives is like saying Asia committed genocide in Europe and killed 2/3 of Europe with the black plague.

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
Okay, we get it. You are a red blooded republican, good for you.

But to deny your racist history, well......

Is there any history in the world that didn't have any racist aspect to it? The blacks who owned black slaves in Africa up to the 1930s or so what do we call them? This is a stupid argument, just as something along the lines of children working in factories in the early 1900s...Yes we all know it is wrong by today's standards.......

– if you don't know, you don't know,” Snoop

a reply to: neo96

The problem with wealthy people is that they don't have any empathy for the lower-class because they have different lifestyles than them. Not having any empathy for a group of people means that the wealthy could hurt people without even feeling it.

Most of the people in our country aren't wealthy, and it is in their best interest to elect representatives that empathise with their goals and needs, etc. If you are a wealthy person, you might not like Bernie Sanders. But the majority of Americans aren't wealthy.

originally posted by: darkbake
If you are a wealthy person, you might not like Bernie Sanders. But the majority of Americans aren't wealthy.

I do not like him and I'm not wealthy...hmmm

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
Okay, we get it. You are a red blooded republican, good for you.

But to deny your racist history, well......

Is there any history in the world that didn't have any racist aspect to it? The blacks who owned black slaves in Africa up to the 1930s or so what do we call them? This is a stupid argument, just as something along the lines of children working in factories in the early 1900s...Yes we all know it is wrong by today's standards.......

– if you don't know, you don't know,” Snoop

Why yes people.

Even though I am a evil racist republican just pay no attention that I have native American ancestry.

Even though I never owned slaves.

'My' history is 'racist'.

a reply to: xuenchen

It is your fault you consider this a tangent - he gets to talk about what he want's, whether you like it or not