Sanders: America Was Founded On ‘Racist Principles. That’s A Fact.

a reply to: neo96

Bernie has a shot ?

How the hell is that when it takes over $1 billion dollars to buy the American presidency.

Sanders doesn't like Rich folks very much, he doesn't like corporations very much.

Don't see Sanders having a snowballs chance in hell.

That's because you are only paying attention to propaganda.

He's doing just fine with NON-CORPORATE, NON-CRONY-CAPITALIST, regular Americans' support.
Your refusal to acknowledge that doesn't mean it isn't true.

It just points out how you haven't looked with an objective eye (brain) at the FACTS.

originally posted by: TOYBEAR
It was founded and bred of racism.
People don't want to acknowledge it because they still
enjoy the privileges that now come with pretending it's not there.
I look at white supremacist with laughter when they say black
people are quick to use "the card" when they're even quicker
to make disgusting derogatory statements due to just someone's
color. There are those that don't consider themselves racist
are quick themselves to say some use "the card" but would never say
this of a jewish person calling to something being antisemetic.
A movie about jewish people going through the holocaust is considered
"a triumph of cinema" while a movie about black people enduring
slavery is "they're just trying to steer the narrative."
This nation continues to be a racists wonderland -

- People are still left unemployable due to their name not being "white"
- People are left unemployable due to their address not being "white"
- People are constantly vilified and harassed and prosecuted for not being white
- People become a mob of hatred solely because a fictional white character is made
black

There are more I can list but I can go on forever - some term it (white guilt) or
(black sympathizer), but truth is I have seen some people show more humanity to
an animal than they ever would to a person just because they are BLACK.


-Toy the Bear

The stench of white guilt on this thread is palatable. I'm sure the education system is proud of their work.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

That's because you are only paying attention to propaganda.

Uh that is what American politics is, Propaganda.

POLITICIANS use it to push their Agenda's.

And that is EXACTLY what Sanders is using: propaganda.

noun 1. information, ideas, or rumors deliberately spread widely to help or harm a person, group, movement, institution, nation, etc.

dictionary.reference.com...

TOYBEAR:

Okay - so I did read your "observation" correctly. Do you believe in segregation? Is that an option you see would resolve these cultural and mindset walls so to speak?

I don't need to give you examples of racism as it seems you have figured it all out - you're a smart one.

No, you did not read my 'observation' correctly. It's a complex subject with many variables and dynamics in play, behind agendas, behind a perception for a need to survive, all these are dynamics that bring about conflict. I stand by what I suggest, that you cannot hate a person simply because of their genetic material, it is just a small, symbolizing part of the equation, the other half of the equation has greater complexities, and greater dynamics.

Why would I believe in segregation, and for what reason? The target of my opposition has nothing to do with genetics or race, but everything to do with mindset and culture wherever they are irreconcilable. I'm a white British male, and having said that, there are plenty of other white British males whose mindsets are irreconcilable to my own, I avoid them just as much as I avoid other irreconcilable mindsets. There is no actual segregation, just avoidance. The Moslem does not segregate himself from the host culture, he just doesn't integrate, because he knows there are irreconcilable differences, none of which are to do with genetics or race. We are not talking 'segregation', because there is an absence of integration, yet there is 'presence'.

Race laws are not about protecting 'race', they are about protecting mindset and culture, because only in those two areas does conflict arise, but often, the conflict is wrongly perceived as a race struggle, it isn't, it is a struggle between ideas and the culture that clothe them.

a reply to: neo96

This is such a lame response that I am stunned.

you don't like politicians; I get it.
you hate government; I get it.
you love Rich People; I get it.
you need assault weapons to fend off the evil socialist liberal commie lily-livered bleeding heart leftists who are bringing Danish poison here; I get it.

And other things.
I get it.

Been interesting having a "dialogue" with you.

It's been real, and it's been fun....but it has not been "real fun". You scare me.

To all the Bernie supporters out there.

I am going to save you a seat on the Trump Express. It will be wonderful.

Let's Make America Great Again. It will be great. You are all welcome.

Trump is singlehandedly going to fix America. He's rich you know.

Let's be Trumpeteers...

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

This is such a lame response that I am stunned. you don't like politicians; I get it. you hate government; I get it. you love Rich People; I get it.

Yep exactly the same stance as the founding fathers.

They didn't worship at the alter of statolatry or idolatry.

No I just don't pay lip service to equality.

Everyone has it or no one does.

a reply to: neo96

And that has what to do with the Sanders platform and campaign?

a reply to: neo96

Yep exactly the same stance as the founding fathers.

Who were entitled, rich, white people who held slaves and were the only people allowed to vote because they were "rich people" who owned slaves.

And we have now come full circle.
This country was founded on racist principles: That's a fact.

Have a great afternoon, neo.
Excuse me for crashing your party here, please.

originally posted by: neo96
Yep exactly the same stance as the founding fathers.

Only if they were self loathers.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

And we have now come full circle. This country was founded on racist principles: That's a fact.

Which is an absolute lie. When one actually bothers to read this nations 'birth certificate'.

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,

www.archives.gov...


Please point where the 'racism' is.

By all means.

a reply to: neo96

Elections are crucial in a system of representative democracy.

Voting has been a subject of controversy throughout our country's history.

During the colonial period and the early years of our nation, voting was generally restricted to white men who owned property.

While the majority of white males were qualified to vote, other people such as women, blacks, American Indians and members of certain religious groups were not allowed to vote.

History of the Right to Vote in the United States

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

And Sanders wants to perpetuate the same kind of thinking.

Only Unions, and 'people' have that right.

WHAT's the DIFFERENCE ?

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: BuzzyWigs

And Sanders wants to perpetuate the same kind of thinking.

Only Unions, and 'people' have that right.

WHAT's the DIFFERENCE ?

I'd be interested in seeing an ACTUAL quote from Bernie with him ACTUALLY saying that only unions and 'people' (whatever that is supposed to mean) should have the right to vote. Though I'm sure you'll respond with some quote mine text that doesn't say exactly what you want it to say.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

That is the entire idea behind Sanders campaign 'reform' such as it's called.

Only unions, and 'people' get to buy politicians.

That is also the idear behind going after those and I quote from Sanders own website. 'Billionaire oligarchs'.

Funny part there is the average voter doesn't even know what a 'oligarch' is.

Second verse same as the first verse screaming.

Class warfare crapola.

a reply to: neo96

Like I said, an ACTUAL quote. Not your biased interpretation of his policies, but him ACTUALLY saying what you are implying he is saying. Anything else and I couldn't care less about it.

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978

originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: neo96

I would call the genocide of thousands of Native Americans " racist ". Wouldn't you ?

To assume Pilgrims lined up and shot the Native Americans.

Is definitely how American haters love to rewrite history...isn't it ?

We know it wasn't the pilgrims, they aren't to blame.

Expansionism is to blame. The white man was not happy with the land they already possessed they needed more, all of it in fact. Well almost, except the reservations, nice touch!!

Actually they still have the land its in a conservancy that upoun the end of the federal government all land reverts back to them. Its also why they don thave to pay taxes. And to be honest the NA indians were not here first themselves so stop th e we stole their land from them. KArma cam e back an d bit them was all. Most indians sold their lands except for a few tribes.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

For the third time Sanders website has been linked and totally IGNORED.

Today, we live in the richest country in the history of the world, but that reality means little because much of that wealth is controlled by a tiny handful of individuals.

berniesanders.com...

Tha'ts a LIE because the STATE created money. The STATE gets to print out of thin air.

Rich people don't control money. THE STATE DOES.

Freedom of speech does not mean the freedom to buy the United States government. Oil companies, pharmaceutical manufacturers, Wall Street bankers and other powerful special interests have poured money into our political system for years. I

berniesanders.com...

And unions Sanders loves so much don't do the same thing.

Getting the 'big' money out of politics would mean getting rid of SS,medicare,medicaid, and free homes. and free education, and free brith control.

All manufactured issues USED TO BUY 'we the people's' votes.

Doubt Sanders wants to get rid of those.

In 2010, a bad situation turned worse. In a 5-4 decision in the Citizens United case, the Supreme Court opened the floodgates for corporations and the wealthy to spend unlimited and undisclosed money to buy our elected officials.

Now THAT IS AN ABSOLUTE LIE.

All anyone has to do is ACTUALLY READ the scotus decision.

The United States Supreme Court held that the First Amendment prohibited the government from restricting independent political expenditures by a nonprofit corporation. The principles articulated by the Supreme Court in the case have also been extended to for-profit corporations, labor unions and other associations.

en.wikipedia.org...

Hell it is THANKS to Citizens United that Sanders has any money WHAT SO EVER that hes even running.

UNIONS.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Krazysh0t

For the third time Sanders website has been linked and totally IGNORED.

Today, we live in the richest country in the history of the world, but that reality means little because much of that wealth is controlled by a tiny handful of individuals.

berniesanders.com...

Tha'ts a LIE because the STATE created money. The STATE gets to print out of thin air.

Rich people don't control money. THE STATE DOES.

For the second time, that isn't a quote saying that Bernie thinks that rich people don't have rights.

Freedom of speech does not mean the freedom to buy the United States government. Oil companies, pharmaceutical manufacturers, Wall Street bankers and other powerful special interests have poured money into our political system for years. I

berniesanders.com...

And unions Sanders loves so much don't do the same thing.

This is a red herring. I never made any attempt to say that unions don't bribe politicians, it also doesn't back up your assertion that Bernie doesn't think that rich people have rights.

Getting the 'big' money out of politics would mean getting rid of SS,medicare,medicaid, and free homes. and free education, and free brith control.

All manufactured issues USED TO BUY 'we the people's' votes.

Doubt Sanders wants to get rid of those.

In 2010, a bad situation turned worse. In a 5-4 decision in the Citizens United case, the Supreme Court opened the floodgates for corporations and the wealthy to spend unlimited and undisclosed money to buy our elected officials.

Now THAT IS AN ABSOLUTE LIE.

All anyone has to do is ACTUALLY READ the scotus decision.

The United States Supreme Court held that the First Amendment prohibited the government from restricting independent political expenditures by a nonprofit corporation. The principles articulated by the Supreme Court in the case have also been extended to for-profit corporations, labor unions and other associations.

en.wikipedia.org...

Hell it is THANKS to Citizens United that Sanders has any money WHAT SO EVER that hes even running.

UNIONS.

Yea see, I knew you couldn't back up your assertions (mostly because you are wrong and being hyperbolic). Instead opting to try to drag me down into your own personal issues and biases. I really don't feel like correcting them for you either since I know you won't listen to a word I say.