Judge upholds Arizona's 'show your papers' immigration law

I dare anybody to sneak in Mexico. The put you under the jail.

However, we are expected to feed, house, educate everybody who comes here.

Anybody care to explain how that is fair ?

a reply to: neo96

Well then our cognitive dissonance cancels each other out.

Since you are doing the same thing, don't want ID for guns but want people to oblige to papers checks and don't see anything wrong with having to prove your citizenship.

And what I was saying is there is more to the gun ID issue you are making about having to show your ID each and every time.
I am sure you are well aware of it too.

a reply to: Sremmos80

As usual, you only see the oil floating on the water.

a reply to: whyamIhere
Hey. You can legally emigrate to Mexico if you like their laws better.
Go for it!

a reply to: whyamIhere

Cool then move to mexico if you like their stance on it.
I heard China and No Ko are the same.
Last time I checked we don't care what other countries do, since this is america and we have our constitution not theirs.

However, we are expected to feed, house, educate everybody who comes here.

No we are not, just because some one says that on the internet doesn't make it true jesus!
Does it happen, sure.
Hardly proven that it is all or the majority of them.

a reply to: xuenchen

As usual you don't answer the questions.

All I did was ask how your solution would solve anything, care to show it?

a reply to: xuenchen

'You vill show us zee paperz'? Not exactly sure what that is about... I have to show my license and registration and insurance if I am stopped. Driving is a privilege, so is coming to the United states.

a reply to: onthedownlow

I have to show my license and registration and insurance if I am stopped.

How about if you're walking down the street?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: whyamIhere
Hey. You can legally emigrate to Mexico if you like their laws better.
Go for it!

Phage...I was just pointing out Mexico doesn't put up with Illegal immigration.

Who said I leaving ? I was just pointing out the difference in immigration policy.

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: xuenchen

As usual you don't answer the questions.

All I did was ask how your solution would solve anything, care to show it?

Sure.

A small "rural" town for example would not have anything to attract the "illegals".

Any job opening would know if somebody was not "documented", and "housing" may be difficult as well.

I bet an illegal won't get far in areas like Mesquite, Nevada or Bunkerville, Nevada for example.



Big Government Failure.

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: whyamIhere

Cool then move to mexico if you like their stance on it.
I heard China and No Ko are the same.
Last time I checked we don't care what other countries do, since this is america and we have our constitution not theirs.

However, we are expected to feed, house, educate everybody who comes here.

No we are not, just because some one says that on the internet doesn't make it true jesus!
Does it happen, sure.
Hardly proven that it is all or the majority of them.

Honest to God WTF are you talking about.

Do you ever read anything before typing your crap ?

a reply to: xuenchen

Are you saying the gov would operate like a small town?
Confused on what small towns have to do with anything.
They still have job openings, that is what attracts people.

How does that deal with the companies that are giving the jobs to the people?
Wouldn't that require the gov to check that, at which point how small is it really?
Sure you answers make sense in a small town,kinda, but that isn't the problem.
We are talking major cities.
What would the 'ultra-small' gov do differently then we are now while still staying small.

a reply to: whyamIhere

Did you read it?
I said if you like Mexico's stance then go there.
Then I said that their laws and policies have no bearing on ours.

And that we are not supporting all of them, regardless of what you heard.
It's all right there.

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: whyamIhere

Did you read it?
I said if you like Mexico's stance then go there.
Then I said that their laws and policies have no bearing on ours.

And that we are not supporting all of them, regardless of what you heard.
It's all right there.

Show me where I said I liked Mexico's stance of immigration.

We can disagree without making it personal. We both love our Country.

I respectfully ask you to reread what I wrote. I was contrasting the difference in the laws.

I would argue Mexico doesn't let people run amok. Why should we ?

a reply to: whyamIhere

Didn't mean to imply that you liked it, just that if you want that policy then you know where to go.
Just because Mexico does it doesn't mean we should.

We don't let them run amok, we give them due process and if they decide to go on the run that is their choice.
They don't get some sort of pass though.

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: neo96

Well then our cognitive dissonance cancels each other out.

Since you are doing the same thing, don't want ID for guns but want people to oblige to papers checks and don't see anything wrong with having to prove your citizenship.

And what I was saying is there is more to the gun ID issue you are making about having to show your ID each and every time.
I am sure you are well aware of it too.

Not really.

Because the ID, and the background check, And the rest of the bill of rights violations extending to the 14th amendment is perfectly acceptable to violate.

But God forbid anyone ask ID from an illegal.

Cancelled out ?

LOL funny.

That is some epic cognitive dissonance.

a reply to: neo96

Because the ID, and the background check, And the rest of the bill of rights violations extending to the 14th amendment is perfectly acceptable to violate.

How is proving who you are and that you are not a felon a violation of the 14th amendment?

But God forbid anyone as ID from an illegal.

How do you know someone is illegal?
How many times have you been asked to provide ID while walking down the street? I never have.

a reply to: Sremmos80

Again, you are only seeing the floating oil.



Big Governments are Failures.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: neo96

But God forbid anyone as ID from an illegal.

How do you know someone is illegal?
How many times have you been asked to provide ID while walking down the street? I never have.

Who really cares .

How does someone tell if someone is gonna go on a shooting spree.

After all thats why it's perfectly acceptable to ask ID to buy a gun.