Judge upholds Arizona's 'show your papers' immigration law

a reply to: Sremmos80

Cute, more empty rhetoric not based in fact.

There is about 10 to 30 million FACTS that back that up.

Not a thing that was empty about that.

And then there is them 'Sanctuary' cities.

a reply to: neo96

And they face legal repercussions for it, so they are not 'allowed' to break the law, just haven't been caught yet.
I am sure you see the difference.

And all sanctuary cities do is extend rights to all people, like it is laid out in the constitutions.
You know god given rights and all men being created equal?

originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: whyamIhere

You need to look no further than this site to see America haters.

I would throw these haters out along with the freeloading friends.

You advocate for tyranny and ultra-nationalism. The very thing that drove the Nazi ideology.

They want to control speech lets do it. If you don't love America.

If you are not willing to die for America....Get the hell out of America.

Very, very dangerous talk. It is that sort of rhetoric and mindset that will lead us to the end. We'll have to keep an eye on you.

It's people that hate America that we have to watch.

Got a mirror ?

Look at what they did to people that hated Germany and National Socialism. Is that what you wish for?

Stop with the Nazi Comparisons...Apples and Oranges.

And yes let's have check points everywhere. Somebody has to stop the invasion.

Better get your papers in order...🚔

We already have 'checkpoints'.

'Operation pull overs' and everything else.

To the police driving around for HOURS checking to see if people are wearing their seat belts.

But those are totally acceptable.

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: neo96

And they face legal repercussions for it, so they are not 'allowed' to break the law, just haven't been caught yet.
I am sure you see the difference.

And all sanctuary cities do is extend rights to all people, like it is laid out in the constitutions.
You know god given rights and all men being created equal?

LOL wow.

Constitutional rights are routinely REVOKED to those that break the law.

There is NOT a damn thing in the constitution about 'open borders'.

Because if there WAS ?

We would not have had CENTURIES of IMMIGRATION LAW.

en.wikipedia.org...

a reply to: neo96

No they are not, and have been repeatedly challenged.

But the same people that pass this type of law are the ones that pass those laws.

So IMO by embracing this, you are embracing those things as well as they have the same effect!

Kinda funny.

Does this mean it's legal to detain people who do not have their papers on them?

I sometimes go for a walk without my birth certificate on me. I'll keep this in mind when next in Arizona.

a reply to: neo96

The problem with this is that it not only affects illegals, it affects American citizens as well. The local and/or federal government shouldn't be able to violate an American's constitutional rights just to get at an illegal immigrant.

a reply to: neo96

Constitutional rights are routinely REVOKED to those that break the law.

LOL wow is right, I know you know how many are there to protect once you do exactly that.

Only time they are revoked is if you agree to it.

originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: whyamIhere

You need to look no further than this site to see America haters.

I would throw these haters out along with the freeloading friends.

You advocate for tyranny and ultra-nationalism. The very thing that drove the Nazi ideology.

They want to control speech lets do it. If you don't love America.

If you are not willing to die for America....Get the hell out of America.

Very, very dangerous talk. It is that sort of rhetoric and mindset that will lead us to the end. We'll have to keep an eye on you.

It's people that hate America that we have to watch.

Got a mirror ?

Look at what they did to people that hated Germany and National Socialism. Is that what you wish for?

Stop with the Nazi Comparisons...Apples and Oranges.

And yes let's have check points everywhere. Somebody has to stop the invasion.

Better get your papers in order...🚔

No, it's quite fitting.

Ja oder Nein?

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: neo96

No they are not, and have been repeatedly challenged.

But the same people that pass this type of law are the ones that pass those laws.

So IMO by embracing this, you are embracing those things as well as they have the same effect!

Kinda funny.

What I am embracing is historical CONSISTENCY.

That every other ethnic group that has come here has gone through.

The LAW and LIMITATIONS which have been consistent for anyone who has even bothered reading those immigration laws since 1798.

But somehow the people from South of the border are more 'important' than others already here, and waiting in line for their shot at the 'Merkian Dream.

Now is that really 'fair' to them, and the rest of us natives ?

Not even close.

a reply to: neo96

Historical consistency?

Fine lets go back to the laws before and see how you like it.

People coming across is not fair to those waiting in line, I agree.

But until we do some serious reform to the system people are going to do it.
Building big walls and passing more laws, which I know you are ever so fond of, isn't going to do anything.

How about some consistency from you, here we have MASSIVE gov over reach and you are embracing it.

a reply to: Sremmos80

Fine lets go back to the laws before and see how you like it.

Fine by me my lineage dates back to the 1700s before there ever was a US.

But until we do some serious reform to the system people are going to do it. Building big walls and passing more laws, which I know you are ever so fond of, isn't going to do anything.

There doesn't need to be 'reform'. What needs to be done is laws ENFORCED.

The entire idea behind immigration law in the first place is to slow immigration to a trickle, and let the country absorb what it has. To make sure there are enough RESOURCES to go around.

In case people missed it. There's not enough to go around. This country doesn't need more people until it sorts out what it already has.

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: whyamIhere

You need to look no further than this site to see America haters.

I would throw these haters out along with the freeloading friends.

You advocate for tyranny and ultra-nationalism. The very thing that drove the Nazi ideology.

They want to control speech lets do it. If you don't love America.

If you are not willing to die for America....Get the hell out of America.

Very, very dangerous talk. It is that sort of rhetoric and mindset that will lead us to the end. We'll have to keep an eye on you.

It's people that hate America that we have to watch.

Got a mirror ?

Look at what they did to people that hated Germany and National Socialism. Is that what you wish for?

Actually the Jews didnt hate Germany. It was the nazis who hated them though for being sucessful. ANd hitlers mother was a jew so he hated himself.
If you are here illegally you should have no more rights than the right to a speedy trial and deportation and basic human rights to avoid abuse.
Currently our "great leader" chooses to not enforce this law while Selectively enforcing the Obama care and other shady laws.

a reply to: yuppa

If you are here illegally you should have no more rights than the right to a speedy trial and deportation and basic human rights to avoid abuse.

A speedy trial, huh?
There's only 450,000 of them lined up. How many immigration courts are there? How many cases a day can each go through.
So, you agree that their rights are being violated?
trac.syr.edu...

Currently our "great leader" chooses to not enforce this law

I'm sorry...what? If the law is not being enforced, why is the backlog growing?

a reply to: neo96

Fine by me my lineage dates back to the 1700s before there ever was a US.

Cool you and me both, but that doesn't really address what you want. Think you would be shocked how many people were coming over then.

There doesn't need to be 'reform'. What needs to be done is laws ENFORCED.

We can't just stick our head in the ground and scream the system works.
It doesn't and we have been shown that.
Reform does need to done to promote those to use the system not go around it.
As it stands it is full of red tape and designed to fail.

a reply to: yuppa

If you are here illegally you should have no more rights than the right to a speedy trial and deportation and basic human rights to avoid abuse

Guess god forgot to give those people the rights huh?
Or should we stop quoting the rights as god given?

a reply to: yuppa

Actually the Jews didnt hate Germany. It was the nazis who hated them though for being sucessful. ANd hitlers mother was a jew so he hated himself.

Hitler didn't only persecute and kill Jews.

Currently our "great leader" chooses to not enforce this law while Selectively enforcing the Obama care and other shady laws.

If that's what you believe than you need to research the topic a bit better.

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: yuppa

If you are here illegally you should have no more rights than the right to a speedy trial and deportation and basic human rights to avoid abuse

Guess god forgot to give those people the rights huh?
Or should we stop quoting the rights as god given?

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: whyamIhere

You need to look no further than this site to see America haters.

I would throw these haters out along with the freeloading friends.

You advocate for tyranny and ultra-nationalism. The very thing that drove the Nazi ideology.

They want to control speech lets do it. If you don't love America.

If you are not willing to die for America....Get the hell out of America.

Very, very dangerous talk. It is that sort of rhetoric and mindset that will lead us to the end. We'll have to keep an eye on you.

It's people that hate America that we have to watch.

Got a mirror ?

Look at what they did to people that hated Germany and National Socialism. Is that what you wish for?

Stop with the Nazi Comparisons...Apples and Oranges.

And yes let's have check points everywhere. Somebody has to stop the invasion.

Better get your papers in order...🚔

No, it's quite fitting.

Ja oder Nein?

I hope Trump gets in.

I would volunteer to drive the bus to remove the criminals from my Nation.

I would gladly save you a seat...🚌

a reply to: whyamIhere

Mass deportation doesn't work, they all have rights to a trial.
Again, god given rights.

And you can thank bush for that as well.