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Do women REALLY need Planned Parenthood?

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posted on Aug, 12 2015 @ 02:22 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: kellyjay

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: kellyjay

Do a google search. Tax dollars don't pay for abortions. The only time they do is in rare, extreme cases.


already been covered, they do in the UK though


When did this discussion become about the UK?


i mentioned it just incase swill saw some of my comments talking about taxpayers here funding abortions and thought i was talking about the US

but excuse me...next time ill run it passed you before i address a comment aimed AT ME on MY thread....




posted on Aug, 12 2015 @ 02:31 PM
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a reply to: kellyjay

So basically you are just trying to wiggle out of making incorrect claims about taxpayers funding abortions. Got it.



posted on Aug, 12 2015 @ 02:32 PM
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actually, the topic was weather or not planned parenthood was needed, with you seeming to assert that there many other avenues for people to get these services, although when asked, you couldn't much in information as to where one could find one of these other providers, since well you aren't in the US....
so you went to how obamacare supposedly provided the way....
which is a laugh and a half!!

I am living proof I believe that you are wrong! not only is it danged difficult for some to get access to birth control, ect without groups like planned parenthood....
it's danged near impossible to get meaningful healthcare of any kind!!!



posted on Aug, 12 2015 @ 02:34 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: kellyjay

So basically you are just trying to wiggle out of making incorrect claims about taxpayers funding abortions. Got it.


no, considering it is mentioned in the OP, but he didnt state where he got the info from, was it OP or a comment he seen....do you have a problem with me making something clear or?
edit on 02/08/2015 by kellyjay because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 12 2015 @ 02:36 PM
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a reply to: dawnstar

here you go, a list of womens health clinics available all over the US

www.google.co.uk...=womens+health+clinics+in+the+US+list&rflfq=1&tbm=lcl&rlha=0



posted on Aug, 12 2015 @ 02:39 PM
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Who actually *believes* PP hasn't found a way around the non-taxpayer funding?

Are all these government & insurance funded outfits *really* prim and proper and so pristine ?




posted on Aug, 12 2015 @ 02:40 PM
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originally posted by: kellyjay

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: kellyjay

So basically you are just trying to wiggle out of making incorrect claims about taxpayers funding abortions. Got it.


no, considering it is mentioned in the OP, but he didnt state where he got the info from, was it OP or a comment he seen....do you have a problem with me making something clear or?


Nope, I just rechecked. There was no mention about UK funding abortions with taxpayer money.



posted on Aug, 12 2015 @ 02:41 PM
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a reply to: kellyjay

You've really done a great job of accomodating yourself to the ways and means and terminology of ATS Kelly!

Good job, and after only 398 posts or so ...

Wow.

You sound just like one of us, like you've been here "forever."

In only 10 days. That's amazing. You're just full of surprises.



PS: Technically, though, you don't "own" the thread, you're the OP. You invited comments, and furthermore, within the T&C, folks can respond how they choose ...

You know, that "freedom of speech" thing ... or at least the nearest equivalent thereof.

You were talking about the US until you were questioned on it ... you were referring to Planned Parenthood.

Then you pivoted.

Just, you know, to keep the "record" straight.




posted on Aug, 12 2015 @ 02:41 PM
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a reply to: kellyjay

great list, really, dear....
your link malfunctioned...



posted on Aug, 12 2015 @ 02:42 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
Who actually *believes* PP hasn't found a way around the non-taxpayer funding?

Are all these government & insurance funded outfits *really* prim and proper and so pristine ?





sure in one of the videos they even talk about ways to work around the law without getting caught



posted on Aug, 12 2015 @ 02:43 PM
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originally posted by: kellyjay

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: kellyjay

yes, and the only gov't funding that is going into abortions are those that ARE MEDICALLY NECESSARY! so all those who are griping about US funding going into abortion must be griping about having to save these women's lives!!
otherwise, hey, they are plenty of legal measures that can be taken to prosecute those who break laws.



or people are under the impression that their taxes are paying for ALL abortions....even congress and the republicans support medical abortions .

but please...carry on


if it's after 20 weeks, they do not support it...H.R. bill 36 passed 242 for to 184 opposed with overwhelming support by republicans...
www.huffingtonpost.com...
the actual legislation...
www.congress.gov...



posted on Aug, 12 2015 @ 02:43 PM
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originally posted by: Murgatroid
Do a google search. Tax dollars don't pay for abortions.


Searching "Planned Parenthood depopulation" turns up some pretty interesting results as well:


Why this bloodlust on the part of the Illuminati? Why are they obsessed with the urge to commit mass murder? It is a fact that the elite have long been the prime sponsors of global depopulation schemes. The Rockefellers funded Margaret Sanger's eugenics programs and helped her set up Planned Parenthood. George Herbert Walker Bush, as a young Congressman, served as head of Rockefellers' Zero Population Growth organization.

To this day, the elite fund the drive by crazed environmentalists for a "sustainable earth." The stated goal, as CNN founder Ted Turner explained, is to wipe off the face of the earth some five and one-half billion inhabitants, leaving only 500 million alive.

Endgame: The Illuminati Blueprint for Global Enslavement

The Eugenics Foundation Of Bill Gates’ Father

In an interview, Gates talked about his family, in particular – his dad. He told the interviewer that his father was a eugenicist, and that for many years his dad was the head of Planned Parenthood. When Bill Gates divulged this information, it was clear that he felt proud of his father for his work. It disgusted me.

Bill Gates Insane Quest To Sterilize And Depopulate The World

Depopulation programs run worldwide are directed and funded by major international money interests, McGeorge Bundyincluding McGeorge Bundy of the CFR, the architect of nuclear Mutual Assured Destruction policy; Warren E. Buffet, the second wealthiest man in the United States; and, ubiquitous when it comes to eugenics funding, the Rockefellers.

Planned Parenthood Federation of America and International Planned Parenthood Federation are Buffett-funded and run a huge abortion and sterilization network worldwide, with one subsidiary, the Brazilian Society for Family Welfare, having over 2,500 outlets in that country.

The Depopulation Bomb, by Jim Keith

Yes, Planned Parenthood has its sharp claws on all things related to murder. Be it abortion or assisted “suicide,” Planned Parenthood is there to help guide the way straight into the pit of Hell. Actually, this is the epitome of the UN’s Agenda 21, killing off those who are infirm, those who are going to die anyway.

All told, several other prominent members of Planned Parenthood, and former members have ties to “Compassion and Choices.” In the end, abortion, and euthanasia are two sides of the same coin. Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood, was a sadist. The force behind birth control, abortion, and eugenics, she was also on the Advisory Board of the Euthanasia Society of America in 1952. Clearly, her mission in life was to see others to their deaths, and she succeeded in normalizing a culture of death in America that is clearly seen today.

Shocker! Planned Parenthood Behind Brittany Maynard's Suicide

Did you know that Planned Parenthood gets more than half a billion dollars from the federal government every single year? Did you know that the Obama administration gives an additional 35 million dollars each year to the United Nations Population Fund to promote abortion and sterilization around the globe? And did you know that the radical new sustainable development agenda that is being launched by the United Nations in September includes a goal of providing access to abortion services to every single woman on the entire planet by the year 2030?

No matter which political party has been in power, the U.S. government has been giving hundreds of millions of dollars to Planned Parenthood year in and year out. They just kept on doing this even though they knew that Planned Parenthood was harvesting body parts from aborted babies and selling them to medical researchers to be used in sick and twisted experiments. It was common knowledge that this was happening in the abortion industry, but nobody was really talking about it.


Barack Obama, Planned Parenthood And The Demonic Population Control Agenda Of The New World Order



posted on Aug, 12 2015 @ 02:43 PM
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edit on 12-8-2015 by Murgatroid because: Double post...



posted on Aug, 12 2015 @ 02:48 PM
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originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: kellyjay

great list, really, dear....
your link malfunctioned...




my bad dear....here you go

www.womenshealth.gov...

www.beckershospitalreview.com...

www.medicinenet.com...

www.guttmacher.org...



posted on Aug, 12 2015 @ 02:50 PM
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a reply to: Murgatroid

really?.....you're bringing the Illuminati into the PP discussion?....wow...now that would be a conspiracy



posted on Aug, 12 2015 @ 02:51 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: kellyjay

You've really done a great job of accomodating yourself to the ways and means and terminology of ATS Kelly!

Good job, and after only 398 posts or so ...

Wow.

You sound just like one of us, like you've been here "forever."

In only 10 days. That's amazing. You're just full of surprises.



PS: Technically, though, you don't "own" the thread, you're the OP. You invited comments, and furthermore, within the T&C, folks can respond how they choose ...

You know, that "freedom of speech" thing ... or at least the nearest equivalent thereof.

You were talking about the US until you were questioned on it ... you were referring to Planned Parenthood.

Then you pivoted.

Just, you know, to keep the "record" straight.



actually you said that taxpayers dont pay for abortions in the uk...i proved they did

dont get pissy, its unbecoming



posted on Aug, 12 2015 @ 02:55 PM
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originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: kellyjay

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: kellyjay

yes, and the only gov't funding that is going into abortions are those that ARE MEDICALLY NECESSARY! so all those who are griping about US funding going into abortion must be griping about having to save these women's lives!!
otherwise, hey, they are plenty of legal measures that can be taken to prosecute those who break laws.



or people are under the impression that their taxes are paying for ALL abortions....even congress and the republicans support medical abortions .

but please...carry on


if it's after 20 weeks, they do not support it...H.R. bill 36 passed 242 for to 184 opposed with overwhelming support by republicans...
www.huffingtonpost.com...
the actual legislation...
www.congress.gov...


that might be because babies at 22 weeks are viable and can be saved.....anyone who refers to roe v wade these days from 30 years ago, despite medicine and science coming on leaps and bounds since then needs their heads checked



posted on Aug, 12 2015 @ 03:01 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
Who actually *believes* PP hasn't found a way around the non-taxpayer funding?


Planned Parenthood found a way around the non-taxpayer funding? - Google Search:


If you give Planned Parenthood money for these so-called “other things,” the abortion provider can shift money from those “other things” to abortion. Any money given to Planned Parenthood funds abortion. Period.

Trump Open To Idea of Continuing Taxpayer Funding of Planned Parenthood

On average, Planned Parenthood receives approximately $500 million a year in taxpayer funds. The report found that the six organizations spent $481 million in federal funding from Fiscal Years 2010 to 2012.

Republicans Push Budget to Help End Taxpayer Funding for Planned Parenthood Abortion Biz

“Americans deserve to know if their hard-earned tax money is being funneled to groups that are misusing it,” said Tierney, one of more than 2,600 private attorneys allied with ADF, which in April asked the Supreme Court to weigh in on the case.

“The government is withholding documents that are critical in evaluating this apparently illegal funding, which the Obama administration granted despite New Hampshire’s grave concerns and without following standard protocols. The administration’s ongoing defense of Planned Parenthood and the secrecy surrounding its funding is completely unacceptable.”

“Americans are already being forced to fund Planned Parenthood, which has become the subject of numerous state investigations in recent days, with more than $500 million in taxpayer dollars annually,” said ADF Senior Counsel Casey Mattox. “At the very least, the government must be transparent about this money. Since Planned Parenthood is already the subject of repeated state and federal audits and whistleblower lawsuits for waste, abuse, and potential fraud of taxpayer dollars, not to mention ongoing federal and state investigations over possible baby parts trafficking, the government should comply with the law and come clean about the funding.”

Secret Obama deal to fund Planned Parenthood



posted on Aug, 12 2015 @ 03:02 PM
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that might be because babies at 22 weeks are viable and can be saved


Not really


According to studies between 2003 and 2005, 20 to 35 percent of babies born at 23 weeks of gestation survive, while 50 to 70 percent of babies born at 24 to 25 weeks, and more than 90 percent born at 26 to 27 weeks, survive.
en.wikipedia.org...




In general, viability refers to the gestational age when a fetus reaches an anatomical threshold when critical organs, such as the lungs and kidneys, can sustain life. The Nuffield Council on Bioethics specifically defines the borderline of viability as an infant born at or before the gestational age of 25 weeks. More commonly, the limit of viability has been defined as the age of fetal maturity that ensures a reasonable chance of extrauterine survival given technological support. Seri and Evans have made the latter definition more specific by suggesting that viability is the age at which the infant has a 50% chance of long-term survival. www.medscape.com...



posted on Aug, 12 2015 @ 03:05 PM
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originally posted by: jimmyx
really?.....you're bringing the Illuminati into the PP discussion?....wow...now that would be a conspiracy

I must give credit where credit is due...

Can one discuss Frankenstein without bringing up Dr. Victor Frankenstein?





edit on 12-8-2015 by Murgatroid because: Felt like it..




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