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Nagalase and vaccines and cancer and autism... oh crap!

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posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 05:02 AM
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a reply to: Boadicea

oh dear - this is not going well :

yes you DID demand that i ` prove a negative `


We'll see when you provide the links/sources that prove not all viruses contain nagalase, and that not all bacteria contain nagalase.


and :


then ALL VACCINES CONTAIN NAGALASE. Prove otherwise or you're just talking trash.




are you going to keep on lying about it ?

as i am not prepared to waste my time jumping through hoops for you - i will just give you one snippet :

the HIV virus and the human influenza virus are both cited as ` containing nagalese `

this requires a bit of logic - but i am not hopeful


but - lets get back to Q1 :

in all your alledged reserach and ` due dilligence ` - did it never strike you as odd that none of the cock wombles in the " alternative medicine " camp could cite the alledged levels of nagalase in any vaccine ???????????

they claim that " nagalase is being introduced via vaccines "

so go figure

and lastly - another question :

at what level [ micrograms / kilo bodyweight ] is nagalase dangerous ????

hint - before answering consider kanzaki syndrome




posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 10:07 AM
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originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: Boadicea

oh dear - this is not going well :

yes you DID demand that i ` prove a negative `


Okay. Fair enough. I did ask you to prove a negative. My bad.


are you going to keep on lying about it ?


Are you going to quit beating your wife? You know I wasn't "lying" which would by definition require a conscious and willful intention to give false information.

And yet, now that you have pointed it out, proving a negative is exactly what is required in this situation: Proving that viruses do not contain nagalase, and that therefore vaccines do not contain nagalase. Pretty darn convenient for those who just want to cry "Don't make me prove a negative!!! You can't make me prove that the stuff in vaccines isn't going to hurt you!!!"


as i am not prepared to waste my time jumping through hoops for you - i will just give you one snippet :

the HIV virus and the human influenza virus are both cited as ` containing nagalese `

this requires a bit of logic - but i am not hopeful


Yes, the HIV, human influenza virus, and many more are being cited as "containing nagalase." And??? So??? So sorry to live up to your expectations, but I have absolutely no idea what this means to you... and what logic I am supposed to apply. To what???


but - lets get back to Q1 :

in all your alledged reserach and ` due dilligence ` - did it never strike you as odd that none of the cock wombles in the " alternative medicine " camp could cite the alledged levels of nagalase in any vaccine ???????????


Actually, yes, it has occurred to me many times. Likewise, and even more concerning, it has occurred to me that the vaccine manufacturers have not either. I have looked for any such information from any source. I know of folks who are suggesting that folks have their blood serum tested for nagalase both before and after vaccination, but I have not found anyone that has tested vaccines.


they claim that " nagalase is being introduced via vaccines "


Yes. Specifically, others -- not me -- are accusing vaccine manufacturers of intentionally adding nagalase to vaccines. My point is that if viruses naturally contain nagalase, there is no reason to add nagalase to the vaccine because the virus already contains nagalase.


and lastly - another question :

at what level [ micrograms / kilo bodyweight ] is nagalase dangerous ????


I would assume that the level of danger is directly proportionate to the levels exceeding normal, with normal levels currently determined to be between 0,5 and 0,95 nMol/ml/min for adults. But I also know -- although I don't understand it all -- that measuring serum levels does not necessarily measure activity level of nagalase. There also seems to be a difference between ph requirements for nagalase in viruses and nagalase for cancer, which I don't understand really either. I am not sure if there is a significance easily recognized by those with much greater understanding of and experience in these matters, or if only the difference has been recognized but its significance is not yet understood.


hint - before answering consider kanzaki syndrome


I have been. But I haven't found much at all about nagalase. Actually, let me be more specific. When I research nagalase, I find references to Schindler/Kanzaki syndrome... but when I search Schindler/Kanzaki syndrome, I'm not finding much about nagalase. Most of what I find is all related to the GcMAF treatment, and I've been trying to find independent sources. I did read something that made me wonder if the human body produces its own nagalase, but I think I misunderstood what I was reading.

It also seems to me that GcMAF is actually the product name developed for treatment, not the D-binding proteins produced by the liver which activates the macrophages/endocannabinoid receptor. But again, I may be wrong... this is just the impression I've gotten from my research.

I'm pretty sure all this makes sense to you though. So school me. Make it make sense for me. You're making me crazy, and I think you're enjoying it, but I still want to pick your brain soooooooooooooo bad!!!
edit on 29-8-2015 by Boadicea because: formatting



posted on Sep, 19 2015 @ 09:44 AM
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a reply to: Boadicea

VERY interesting.

F&S&



posted on Nov, 18 2015 @ 07:03 AM
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Great thread & info'
Thank you.



posted on Nov, 29 2015 @ 06:54 PM
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hi - all - appologies for the delay in getting back to this - real life crap to deal with

due to a missundersatanding - on my part - i have appologised to the OP for the tone of my earlier comments in thread

i did promise a further explaination of my position on this .

but with all that has happened and the utter absence of any actuall data from the proponents of the claims made in the source material undepinning this thread .

i simply CBA

so will bow out with this :

that which is asserted without evidence , can be dismissed without evidence

sorry about that - but the reply i would like to do - would run to 2000 words +



posted on Nov, 29 2015 @ 11:03 PM
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originally posted by: ignorant_ape
so will bow out with this :

that which is asserted without evidence , can be dismissed without evidence

sorry about that - but the reply i would like to do - would run to 2000 words +
That which is asserted without evidence, can be accepted without evidence if multiple sources attest to it.



posted on Dec, 16 2015 @ 06:01 PM
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The company in Guernsey wasn't even selling GcMAF www.globes.co.il... It was also shut down www.gov.uk...

A phase I is ongoing and the company has patents on it clinicaltrials.gov...



posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 01:40 AM
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Dr. Nobuto Yamamoto discovered and characterised this. I know his main hypothesis is that the production of nagalase by cancer cells blocks GcMAF and this mechanism helps tumours evade the immune system. But other independent researchers have found no differences in the level of this in people who are healthy or have cancer onlinelibrary.wiley.com... Also the NAGA gene codes for nagalase, but it is rarely mutated in any type of cancer.

He sold all his patents to an Israeli company called Efranat who are conducting a Phase I trial (NCT02052492) They have published some early data from it www.linkedin.com...

First Immune/Immuno Biotech who use to be based in Guernsey were founded by Dr. Marco Ruggiero (who now peddles Rerum which he claims is a better version of GcMAF & Bravo yoghurt) and David Noakes. When Efranat brought a vial that allegedly contained the molecule they couldn't find any when it was tested www.globes.co.il... Far more worrying is the fact that when the MHRA raided another of First Immune's facilities they found it wasn't up to GMP standards and was unlicensed. The blood plasma starting material being used to make this stated: ''Not to be administered to humans or used in any drug products'' www.gov.uk...



posted on Sep, 20 2017 @ 02:19 AM
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originally posted by: Dr UAE
a reply to: Boadicea

my thoughts ?? i think they will go after those patients and kill them too , so they don't prove that he was right .

its crazy man , so GcMAF is a natural protein produced by our own bodies and when our bodies stops producing them what is the harm from getting it back into our bodies ? its like criminalizing the production of vitamin C or vitamin D or any other supplement .


insulin is a natural protein produced by our own bodies, and when our bodies stop producing them we get it back into our bodies. That is also a registered drug




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