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If our government does not have the resources/brains to allow our soldiers to defend themselves in the commission of their duties,
originally posted by: Shamrock6
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: ISawItFirst
Personally, I'd have no problem with soldiers who are living and working in the states exercising their 2nd.
Liberty at last, armed and heading for the nearest bar to blow off steam… and a few rounds.
Military service is often a fine line of enormous stress of duty balanced with the training to kill in combat. For veterans of combat this is even worse…potentially.
Now I said potentially.
Upper management isn't concerned about the majority, of course.
As near as I know, it's illegal to carry a weapon into establishments serving alcohol and/or to carry a weapon while consuming alcohol. There's already laws against that so why should anybody be worried about it? It's illegal, laws always work so I'm not sure why that's even a valid example.
Oh I see. It should be EXTRA illegal for a military member to do it. Gotcha.
originally posted by: notmyrealname
originally posted by: Shamrock6
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: ISawItFirst
Personally, I'd have no problem with soldiers who are living and working in the states exercising their 2nd.
Liberty at last, armed and heading for the nearest bar to blow off steam… and a few rounds.
Military service is often a fine line of enormous stress of duty balanced with the training to kill in combat. For veterans of combat this is even worse…potentially.
Now I said potentially.
Upper management isn't concerned about the majority, of course.
As near as I know, it's illegal to carry a weapon into establishments serving alcohol and/or to carry a weapon while consuming alcohol. There's already laws against that so why should anybody be worried about it? It's illegal, laws always work so I'm not sure why that's even a valid example.
Oh I see. It should be EXTRA illegal for a military member to do it. Gotcha.
Actually in a very real ensue it is "extra illegal"; the military are bound by two sets of laws and double jeopardy does not apply. First they are bound by the UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice) which has very harsh policies on just about everything. Second the same laws as everyone else. As such a Military member that violates the law in the community first faces punishment by the community's Justice system and then faces punishment by the military after that.
originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: hounddoghowlie
I see it as a symbolic message, that many would not agree with it, specially those that care less about Americas constitutional rights of guns.
But it is a messages regardless to all those terrorist out there that Americans that love their right to arms will not take terrorist acts with calm.
We are ready, armed and will defend our own..
originally posted by: notmyrealname
a reply to: Krazysh0t
I do not think that Active Duty Military that are not deployed carrying a weapon warrants mention of Posse Comitatus. The military is not being deployed to the streets of the USA in this case nor was it the case when the military carried firearms during duty in the past while in the US.
Also wasn't the OP about a civilian volunteering his personal time to help protect these men? Since when has society become so brainwashed as to see community protecting itself as a problem?
originally posted by: Yule C Mann
This country and it's rules and laws have become so convoluted that it's almost embarrassing.
It's REALLY sad when soldiers of these United States military who forswear an oath to defend the country against enemies foreign and DOMESTIC, cannot even carry a weapon (even on military property) on the land they have obligation and responsibility to defend.
This SITTING DUCK zone foolishness needs to end. NOW!!!!! Thank you!