World Trade Center 7 Explosion and Controlled Collaspe Caught on Tape.

When the WTC collapsed it damaged WTC 7, the damage wasn't severe, but the fires were not being tended to. Larry Silverstein (owner since July 2001)and others determined that they weren't going to be able to contain the fires as the fire crews were exhausted after the collapses of the twin towers they made the decision to PULL the building before the fires got to severe and the collapse would be chaotic which would cause much more property damage and loss of life.
World trade center 7 was evacuated before 10am and its collapse was controlled.

originally posted by: waypastvne

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

Yes, the religion that is most easy to frame and place the blame on. The religion that comes largely from regions of oil wealth.

I have a little pop quiz for you. Lets see if you can get any of the questions right.

Sounds like you fully understand that 'Muslim extremists" are the scapegoat for all crimes from which people in government profit.

Good for you. Now wake up.

PULL IT

originally posted by: Shadow Herder
When the WTC collapsed it damaged WTC 7, the damage wasn't severe, but the fires were not being tended to. Larry Silverstein (owner since July 2001)and others determined that they weren't going to be able to contain the fires as the fire crews were exhausted after the collapses of the twin towers they made the decision to PULL the building before the fires got to severe and the collapse would be chaotic which would cause much more property damage and loss of life.
World trade center 7 was evacuated before 10am and its collapse was controlled.

Yes and a triage tent was moved before the planned and controlled demolition.

a reply to: firerescue

Powerful enough to flip a FDNY ladder truck over

Family member of one my FD members was the officer on this truck - he and entire crew died…..

Sorry for the delay.

Wow, sorry for your loss. The down blast from the towers collapsing wreaked havoc that day. The superheated air rushingout was like a pyroclastic flow, vehicles were sand blasted, burned and tossed about like toys.

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People closest to the maelstrom were the fire and rescue crews, so sad.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye


Sounds like you fully understand that 'Muslim extremists" are the scapegoat for all crimes from which people in government profit.

Good for you. Now wake up.

How lucky to find someone like you, who can explain all the acts of barbarism committed by the Religion of Peace.

Can you please explain how people in the government profited from this event ?

en.wikipedia.org...



Give us some details how much money did the Government make off of this ?

a reply to: Shadow Herder

Dunno if this has already been posted, I usually ignore this topic completely by now.
But check min. 52.10 to hear the magic words from Silvertongue yourself:



I think it's a very good production and it doesn't come along with commercials, neither does anybody want to sell books.
"Please copy this video freely" is one of those things I really love to do.

But you know... we all ought to believe in a god called NIST and who even dares to speak out against this dogma should welcome to be called heretic, truther or even conspiracy theorist. Always the same connotation, just a different set of letters on the screen.

edit:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Ok, you've got me. I'll try to read at least the last page before I come up with old news next time...

a reply to: Mianeye

originally posted by: Mianeye
Let's compare that one boom to a real demolition.

Hmmm...something is wrong ?

What makes you so positive that this is the only way to bring down a building? Perhaps because it is the only way most of us have seen it done. Perhaps what we are looking at is a cost effective, and straight ahead demolition. Now if you wanted to use something else that would hide the process a bit, there certainly were explosions, mix with thermate and god knows what else...

a reply to: Shadow Herder

So, Mr Silverstein, in the middle of an interview on 9/11, for which I assume he knows he's being filmed, "lets slip" the fact that he ordered the controlled demolition of WTC7 and was complicit in the perpetration of one of the greatest tragedies in the history of the United States? That's what you are suggesting? So, he's either the stupidest human being in history, or this is one of the worst pieces of "evidence" for a conspiracy theory yet. My money is on the latter.

originally posted by: Boscowashisnamo
Some 185,101 tons of structural steel have been hauled away from Ground Zero. Most of the steel has been recycled as per the city's decision to swiftly send the wreckage to salvage yards in New Jersey. The city's hasty move has outraged many victims' families who believe the steel should have been examined more thoroughly. Last month, fire experts told Congress that about 80% of the steel was scrapped without being examined because investigators did not have the authority to preserve the wreckage. 911research.wtc7.net/wtc/groundzero/cleanup.html

The outcry from many who witnessed the events of that day, and the possibilities of answers from a forensic analysis of the girders recovered went unanswered by the hasty removal of key evidence. If tptb didn't want the public or independent researchers to obtain answers, clean up the crime scene and recycle or dump the evidence.

And here we are almost 15 years later.

Interesting, I wonder where the rest of the steel went those buildings had a hell of a lot more steel than that.

Very simple. Steel buildings do NOT collapse into their own footprint from office fires. If you believe NIST's explanation of the WTC7 collapse (of which they only tried to explain the initial failure)... then you have ZERO comprehension of high-school level physics.

The building was demolished. Period.

originally posted by: scottyirnbru

originally posted by: haven123

Irrelevant. You've applied a standard to something entirely different. Is there a loading on the tree? Is it static or dynamic? How long did it burn for?

Nice picture, although entirely irrelevant.

No of course no load is on the tree, why just take a chainsaw too it and see for yourself !!!

originally posted by: DerekJR321
Very simple. Steel buildings do NOT collapse into their own footprint from office fires

As none of the buildings that collapsed on 9/11 collapsed into their own footprint what are you on about?

It seems you know nothing at all about science or physics!

originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: DerekJR321
Very simple. Steel buildings do NOT collapse into their own footprint from office fires

As none of the buildings that collapsed on 9/11 collapsed into their own footprint what are you on about?

It seems you know nothing at all about science or physics!

First.. I didn't say they all did. WTC1 and 2 exploded outward. Building 7 fell pretty much within its area. The building fell completely straight down. It did not shear, or tip over, or partially collapse. Sorry.. but the failure of 1 support column would NOT cause a collapse like that.

Second, to add... Building 7 did pretty much fall into its own footprint. After the collapse, the rubble pile was roughly 4 stories high. The debris didn't scatter or fall all over the place. It folded in on itself, as a controlled demolition normally does. There are plenty of videos where you can see this. At the end of the collapse, both sides of the structure pull in on themselves.

originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: DerekJR321
Very simple. Steel buildings do NOT collapse into their own footprint from office fires

As none of the buildings that collapsed on 9/11 collapsed into their own footprint what are you on about?

It seems you know nothing at all about science or physics!

Sure there Bruce, care to show us ANY buildings that are talked about as "collapsing into their own footprint" not exhibiting the same slight swell to the outside ???

Stop wasting everyones time with your ridiculous claims, they fell as a demolition company would expect!!

Footprint is EXACTLY the terminology used , and the pile falling outside of it is in acceptable range for that definition.

Bahahaha, you guys are getting slow, bet you thought no more threads on this topic are gonna popup, get with it man !

originally posted by: ChiefD
a reply to: Shadow Herder

The whole demolition of WTC 7 conspiracy theory has been been endlessly debunked by real experts and scientists.

But unlike some on here, I won't stoop to the lowest level and call you all that believe the conspiracy theory nasty names.

The official story is the correct one. I think we can all agree to disagree.

What official story is that ??

As many versions of it exist as Biblical Translations, according to every debunker on this site !!!

So apparently you haven't heard that "No Official Story" actually exists at all!!

Just ask em !!

originally posted by: ChiefD


The whole demolition of WTC 7 conspiracy theory has been been endlessly debunked by real experts and scientists.

Really? Who is that? Why did it take the Federal Government 7 years to conduct an investigation? What supposedly "real experts and scientists" are you referring to? I mean, I can of course name the 1700+ architects and engineers who disagree with the "official story".

Maybe you are referring to NIST? Except they don't explain the collapse. They didn't even BOTHER to research if there could have been explosions. Their reasoning was that they didn't feel the dB levels were high enough to say there could have been explosives. Never mind the countless witnesses and videos where explosions can be heard.

"The official story is the correct one" only to you.

originally posted by: wmd_2008
a reply to: ForteanOrg


The buildings were NOT designed for a plane crashed at HIGH SPEED FULL OF FUEL, NONE of the buildings fell exactly in their own footprint, they did NOT fall exactly the same way for a start the Towers were hit at different locations !

You people seem to deal with every part of it in isolation the plane impacts cause STRUCTURAL DAMAGE
The fires caused increased THERMAL LOADING in the structures.
The floor slabs in the towers were suspended between the outside wall & core the connections on each floor slab were independent of each other.
The floor slabs could fall down within the structure.
All these things act together, I MEAN AFTER A GAPING HOLE is torn in the building do you think you can just ignore that when the fire takes hold.
Then when the fire has created thermal loadings in the structure do YOU think you can then forget about the gaping hole & the fire.
Is that how your mind works

Do you know before this event THERMAL LOADING on a structure due to fire was NOT FULLY CALCULATED only assumptions were made.

From Arup Structural Engineers paper regarding fire safety in buildings after 9/11

Seismic design relies on modelling, risk analysis and changes to the structural stiffness. Wind design relies on additional structural members and wind tunnel tests. Current fire design relies on very simple, single element tests and adding insulating material to the frame. Thermal induced forces are not calculated or designed for

So in REALITY even the designers of the TOWERS would not know how they would react under fire never mind after damage done by the impacts

So, according to that logic anyone creating stories about how they fell, is reaching and guessing as well!!

They have no DataLogs to look at!, nothing at all, so why bother listening to them if even the engineers had no clue.

How do you expect an investigation with No DATA on which to test, could be properly carried out??

None of the black boxes for the four planes were "officially" recovered, is that correct? And how many black boxes from US commercial plane crashes had not been recovered prior to 911?