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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: Xcathdra
Show me the study with regards to the complete collapse of the core-columns and I will keep my mouth shut. There is nothing to discuss if you can't, which you don't. As there is none.
Move on, nothing to see here.
originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: PublicOpinion
A wwII bomber and 707 cant be compared to the aorcrafts in question or their speeds on impact.
In the scenarios you mention the aircraft are considered to be traveling at normal speed with a level hit coupled with a flight crew that would be trying to avoid and not intentionally crash at high speed.
originally posted by: FormOfTheLord
originally posted by: scottyirnbru
originally posted by: FormOfTheLord
Anyone that believes jet fuel caused building 7 to collapse I have a space bridge to the moon to sell you at a discount price.
Nobody believes that. You've also misunderstood what happened. Carry on though.
I wouldnt be suprised if many did believe that nonsense. Americans will believe anything, you say it we will believe it!
1/4th of my fellow Americans believe the sun goes around the earth, I dont expect too much from the people of my country. That way im not very dissapointed with the people. They arent the brightest, nor the sharpest, but they may be the coolest which may mean something to someone somewhere just not here LOL.
The core collapsed. The building design had no reinforced core.
Ah yes the typical "you cant refute the facts so you attack the poster" method.
originally posted by: blondegiraffe
originally posted by: BlackboxInquiry
Wouldn't hurt to also check out other buildings that have been struck by aircraft and the damages they suffered.
so i did that the other day, because i was interested in the small plane that crashed into that family's house in massachusetts. and there are a lot of small planes that have crashed into regular houses. maybe i am nuts, but you figure that houses are not made with steel columns, so they should probably suffer more damage than the Towers, even though they are being hit by a small plane rather than commercial jet. i guess you can say maybe the fires in the Towers were more out of control because firefighters couldn't get up there to fight them. but even with the gaping holes in the side of the Towers, they looked so stable. i think they all were controlled. but 7 especially. it was not structurally sound, so they demolished it to make sure it wouldn't go down unexpectedly and injure more people. hope i did the quote thing right, never done it before.
For months, senior officials believed that firefighters had gone no higher than about the 50th floor in each tower, well below most damage. The transmissions from Chief Palmer and others reveal a startling achievement: firefighters in the south tower actually reached a floor struck by the second hijacked airplane. Once they got there, they had a coherent plan for putting out the fires they could see and helping victims who survived.
About 14 or 15 minutes before the south tower collapsed, a group of people who had survived the plane's impact began their descent from the 78th floor. As they departed, Chief Palmer sent word to Chief Edward Geraghty that a group of 10 people, with a number of injuries, were heading to an elevator on the 41st floor. That elevator was the only one working after the plane hit. On its last trip down, however, the car became stuck in the shaft. Inside the elevator was a firefighter from Ladder 15, who reported that he was trying to break open the walls. It is not clear whether the group of 10 had reached that elevator before it left the 41st floor but those who listened to the tape said it was most unlikely that they had enough time to escape, by the elevator or by stairs.
originally posted by: Shadow Herder
originally posted by: redtic
a reply to: Shadow Herder
So, Mr Silverstein, in the middle of an interview on 9/11, for which I assume he knows he's being filmed, "lets slip" the fact that he ordered the controlled demolition of WTC7 and was complicit in the perpetration .
This man witnessed it in person as well. He says that Larry Silverstein says " Building 7 was a controlled demoltion". The building was damaged. So damaged and for safety reasons they brought it down. There was no water available and the WTC 7 was evacuated by 10am.