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Russia says will retaliate if U.S. weapons stationed on its borders

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posted on Jun, 22 2015 @ 02:55 AM
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ATTENTION ALL

Please focus on the actual topic, and not on each other.

Play the ball, not the player.

Thank you.




posted on Jun, 22 2015 @ 03:11 AM
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a reply to: MrSpad
interesting.

what did the principality of sealand say?



posted on Jun, 22 2015 @ 03:26 AM
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originally posted by: devilmoon
a reply to: MrSpad
interesting.

what did the principality of sealand say?


It is a hard thing when facts come into play is it not? Well here are some more. The next Ukraine is Belarus. Belarus, Russia's brother state is reaching out to the West. After seeing how fast Russia turned on Ukraine and with Russia history in Georgia and Moldova, Belarus is looking for a way out as well. It does not help that Kremlin backed articles have been making claims that Russia is owed part of Belarus as well.

Who can Russia count on? North Korea, Syria, Armenia? China has made it clear it has no interest is supporting Russia's actions in its former republics. Old friends Iran, Venezuela, Cuba, have all reached out to the West. While India and Vietnam have jumped into the US/Japan/ASEAN/ANZUS grouping.

The thing about Russia is they every time somebody tries to defend them the Russians themselves pull the rug out from under them.



posted on Jun, 22 2015 @ 03:33 AM
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a reply to: MrSpad

You know that's going to be denied all over the place... Hard truths often are.



posted on Jun, 22 2015 @ 03:49 AM
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a reply to: MrSpad

well. the one bit I can comment on in all that.
is Venezuela has done no such thing.

several times recently they've foiled western backed coup attempts.

I suspect the rest is equally flawed.



posted on Jun, 22 2015 @ 09:31 AM
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U.S. will send weapons and aircraft to help NATO forces deal with threats and Russia as well

www.foxnews.com...



posted on Jun, 22 2015 @ 09:48 AM
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a reply to: Gianfar


Haha, I thought you were smart enough to Google it yourself.


Please try to square these facts with your statements:



Source.
edit on 22-6-2015 by DJW001 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 22 2015 @ 01:07 PM
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Russia War Crimes:
Deathing Innocence body
Theift of Radar technology
Deathing non weaponized non death mutation vehicles
Threats against non conspiritors

Russian war criminals - United states citizens and + them in russia.

United States Voters vote no to weaponizing russian space.

Year/Longititude/Latitude of russian threatener?

Solution: Route physical no hole portal to tortured threateners body =ing death 1 = deathing 500+ Russian "Threateners"



posted on Jun, 22 2015 @ 01:09 PM
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a reply to: AsurianRabbit

Uh, sure....



posted on Jun, 22 2015 @ 02:22 PM
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a reply to: devilmoon

No they claimed they did. Like Russia the president of Venezuela uses an outside "threat" to divert the attention of their citizens from the fact they can't run a country. Energy and food crisis while the government is unaffected.



posted on Jun, 22 2015 @ 02:44 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: devilmoon

No they claimed they did. Like Russia the president of Venezuela uses an outside "threat" to divert the attention of their citizens from the fact they can't run a country. Energy and food crisis while the government is unaffected.



Yes same thing Putin does dictators need to blame an outside enemy. Inflation is so bad in Venezuela that an I phone cost 47000.00. Russia is starting to see its inflation rise as well meaning Russians won't be able to buy things. So to distract citizens you need a boogie man to blame thi b go on. See a government can't admit they are making things worse and have to convince people that this outside threat is so powerful that they are helpless to stop it. But will of course keep fighting for the people.

If the US could do half the stuff countries claim they could take over the world in a couple of weeks.



posted on Jun, 22 2015 @ 03:30 PM
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originally posted by: MrSpad
The next Ukraine is Belarus. Belarus, Russia's brother state is reaching out to the West. After seeing how fast Russia turned on Ukraine and with Russia history in Georgia and Moldova, Belarus is looking for a way out as well.


A way out of what? Belarus is bordered by Russia. It will always be there, it can't up sticks and move, it is a neighbour of Russia. Russia has big influence in Belarus, their economies are intertwined, just like their energy system. Russia has military bases in Belarus. They are one and the same.



posted on Jun, 22 2015 @ 04:12 PM
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originally posted by: devilmoon
a reply to: MrSpad

well. the one bit I can comment on in all that.
is Venezuela has done no such thing.

several times recently they've foiled western backed coup attempts.

I suspect the rest is equally flawed.


Oh but they have US Venezuela talks in Haiti
Of course they are now claiming Brazil is trying to coup them to explain why a bus full of Brazilian senators was stoned and a very angry Brazil demanding action. And that recent threats to Guyana about exploring for oil in its own territory has stirred up the Caribbean states and the UK. With Venezuela already in massive economic and political trouble at home, angering other states in the region and with Russia helpless to do anything of course it makes sense for them to start talking to the US. Again those darn facts can sure be a pain.



posted on Jun, 22 2015 @ 04:17 PM
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originally posted by: ufoorbhunter

originally posted by: MrSpad
The next Ukraine is Belarus. Belarus, Russia's brother state is reaching out to the West. After seeing how fast Russia turned on Ukraine and with Russia history in Georgia and Moldova, Belarus is looking for a way out as well.


A way out of what? Belarus is bordered by Russia. It will always be there, it can't up sticks and move, it is a neighbour of Russia. Russia has big influence in Belarus, their economies are intertwined, just like their energy system. Russia has military bases in Belarus. They are one and the same.


That would be what the Russians will claim just as they have in Georgia, Moldova and Ukraine. None of those countries agree with that. Nor does Belarus. Nor does the world. Russia's own action have brought this. Turned its closest friends against it.



posted on Jun, 22 2015 @ 04:45 PM
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Russia has had to make a move to stop the USA squirreling in to former soviet Republics. 911 (evil as it was) was a god send for the USA attempt to encircle Russia as it gave them an excuse to get stuck into former Soviet republics. It is not surprising Putin has sought to defend his own backyard. Russia is freezing over conflicts all over the FSU, Armenia is in the fold, Azerbaijan has Russian military in there with the Armenians in Nagorno Karabach, Kazacstan is dominated by Russian business, Kyrgystan is just turning in to a Russian client state. Belarus has a Russian military based in it and is totally reliant onRussian trade and energy. Uzbekistan is a Russian friend, Moldova is under Russian military control in ome regios, as is Georgia and also Ukraine. Russia on the rebound, from a Moscow perspective things are looking very 1980's again



posted on Jun, 22 2015 @ 05:25 PM
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originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
a reply to: MrSpad

Russia has had to make a move to stop the USA squirreling in to former soviet Republics. 911 (evil as it was) was a god send for the USA attempt to encircle Russia as it gave them an excuse to get stuck into former Soviet republics. It is not surprising Putin has sought to defend his own backyard. Russia is freezing over conflicts all over the FSU, Armenia is in the fold, Azerbaijan has Russian military in there with the Armenians in Nagorno Karabach, Kazacstan is dominated by Russian business, Kyrgystan is just turning in to a Russian client state. Belarus has a Russian military based in it and is totally reliant onRussian trade and energy. Uzbekistan is a Russian friend, Moldova is under Russian military control in ome regios, as is Georgia and also Ukraine. Russia on the rebound, from a Moscow perspective things are looking very 1980's again


Yeah about 1989. Did you forget Russia was walking hand in hand with the West? A member of NATO's PFP, part of the Russia-NATO council and member of the G8 etc etc. Is it the Wests fault that Russia has nothing offer but, poverty and conflict? Who would chose that? Of course those states are moving to the West. If you think Moscow thinks that instead of having allies that will aid it they now have to use force to keep its border states from deserting it your fooling yourself. It is the ultimate sign of weakness. Russia is on a path to ruin. Of course things in Russia change and it is likely Putin will have an accident sooner or later and Russia will get back on track. Until then Russia is in a bad place politically, economically, internationally and militarily. And they have no one to blame but Putin.



posted on Jun, 22 2015 @ 10:19 PM
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a reply to: MrSpad

Will the people get their Rubles back then?



posted on Jun, 22 2015 @ 10:32 PM
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originally posted by: ufoorbhunter


A way out of what? Belarus is bordered by Russia. It will always be there, it can't up sticks and move, it is a neighbour of Russia. Russia has big influence in Belarus, their economies are intertwined, just like their energy system. Russia has military bases in Belarus. They are one and the same.


And yet all those former occupied "ssr's" did just that when the USSR collapsed. They ran for the west to escape the failed systems that brought down the USSR.

Russia has a lot of potential.. its to bad Putin is actively destroying that potential to keep his crimes against the Russian people a secret.



posted on Jun, 23 2015 @ 02:58 AM
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gotta say. you lot make yourselves look particularly ridiculous when you start referring to recently elected leaders of countries that stand up to the US corporations as dictators.

especially when the rest of the world is waking up more and more to the fact traditional politics is as obsolete is the social companies they use to get their money from or the education system designed to fill their ranks with mindless drones.
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posted on Jun, 23 2015 @ 03:34 AM
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And you make yourself look ridiculous when you portray a man who has wielded absolute executive power for twelve years contrary to his own nation's constitution as anything but a dictator.




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