Need help with chronic, debilitating nausea

Thanks so much guys, yes I will keep you updated!

originally posted by: woodwardjnr
Coming to ats for medical advise isn't a very good idea. If I'd have listened to the " medical wisdom" of ATS id be dead years ago. I have chronic nausea because I have a brain tumour. The only way I deal with it is anti sickness medication and lots of sleep. It could be litterally anything, I imagine if she has been Assessed by a Dr a brain tumour will have been checked for. Get it sorted out and make sure she is honest about any other symptoms, sometimes we hide other symptoms from our Drs out of fear of what it could be. You have to make sure Dr is aware of all symptoms

The reason people seek others advice is because they know the pharma industry is a corrupt money maker with a very high chance it will kill you due to the side effects and ignorance of those involved in the industry.
The drugs they give us are based on nature, if you want to trust a business that is given a bonus for dispensing a certain brand without researching it then you are quite simply of extremely low intelligence who has no idea of reality.

If someone has researched this and they can offer a piece of the puzzle why not disseminate it no-one should take the advice of another without researching this and that includes the advice of a doctor.

How much time have you invested into curing your brain tumour Woodward

It wouldn't surprise me if the urge to vomit is caused by inflammation in the brain, especially in light of her diagnosis of myalgic encephalomyelitis. In any event it wouldn't hurt to get some natural anti-inflammatories into system via food. Honey is anti-inflammatory and may be easy to administer because she has to eat something. You can put a little in anything she drinks, yogurt etc…. It also has a lot of B6 which is good for helping the nervous system make the chemicals it needs. B vitamins are good for the nerves in general. M.E. falls under CFS which is probably the medical world's way of saying 'we have no clue'. I'd look at B 12 as well, because persons who take a lot of acid reflux drugs are often deficient. If the nerves are stressed, everything is compromised. This may be a longstanding deficiency. A good B complex couldn't hurt but you can over do B vitamins. I wouldn't bombard her with huge doses, especially of the pyridoxine (B 6), for example. Small changes. I'd at least make sure she is getting all the vitamins she needs.

Does she have headaches, as her DX would indicate? I read that headaches are basically a seizure of the brain. A lot of what goes wrong with digestion (vomiting/IBS etc...) is simple brain seizures, nerves not being allowed to function as they should. I am not a doctor but I am not handing out prescriptions of controlled drugs either. I have come to believe that food is key to health. There are a lot of foods that we should not be taking. Like most of what you see when you enter a big store...


reply to: Martin75

# 439

Thanks guys. Well just a little update, she has a gastro appointment with the specialist next month but as she has been quickly losing weight and has pain when the stomach area is pressed the Dr has booked an urgent scan of the area and has mentioned gall bladder issues may be one possible cause as has been mentioned by many here. The scan should be happening within 2 weeks.

One of the main reasons why lemon is so effective against nausea is because it helps in neutralizing possible stomach acids that may be causing your feelings of nausea. Lemon ultimately balances the pH levels of the body.
1.Get a lemon and cut it in half.
2. From one of the halves of the lemon, get the juice and place it in a bowl.
3.Mix in half teaspoon of salt.
4.Before drinking this mixture, start to breathe in the fumes of the lemon juice and salt mixed together.
5.Drink this slowly.

Source:10 Natural Home Remedies for Nausea and Vomiting

a reply to: Scouse100

I'm just reading a really good book, by Henry Bieler Food is your best medicine, there is a really good chapter about the liver and dealing with the problems you are reporting.

just quickly vegetable broths will give the body the necessary nutrients while the body deals with the problems well worth buying the book been in print since 1967 so It keeps selling and there's only one reason for that aslo she needs medical grade sodium maybe in bicarbonate form although the main requirement is sodium for the liver

Thanks guys, sorry I just checked and noticed the new replies!

We have had a very stessful few weeks. My mum has been in hospital as she was very ill, on the upside they have done pretty much every test and scan there is while she was there so no more waiting. They have found nothing though and have sent her home with a bunch of tablets. She did seem better for the last couple of days in hospital but they had given her a sedative to help her sleep which looks like it was masking her symptoms somewhat and now she is home she is going downhill again.

I now feel that anxiety is playing a huge role in all of this. I am not certain it is just that alone or if things have just spiralled and the anxiety about what is wrong has made the whole thing much worse. She has been describing classic anxiety symptoms to me the last couple of weeks such as frequent urge to urinate, a floaty unreal feeling, hot and cold flashes, weak legs etc.....

GP is coming out later so will decide where to go next. I have got her some breathing excercises and a hypnotherapy mp3 but she seems in too much of a state to use them and in the back of her mind I know she still thinks this is going to finish her off. Feeling pretty helpless right now

originally posted by: letianmoon
One of the main reasons why lemon is so effective against nausea is because it helps in neutralizing possible stomach acids that may be causing your feelings of nausea. Lemon ultimately balances the pH levels of the body.
1.Get a lemon and cut it in half.
2. From one of the halves of the lemon, get the juice and place it in a bowl.
3.Mix in half teaspoon of salt.
4.Before drinking this mixture, start to breathe in the fumes of the lemon juice and salt mixed together.
5.Drink this slowly.

Source:10 Natural Home Remedies for Nausea and Vomiting

Yes, I used lemon for my morning sickness when pregnant and it definitely took the edge off!

originally posted by: TheWhiteKnight
It wouldn't surprise me if the urge to vomit is caused by inflammation in the brain, especially in light of her diagnosis of myalgic encephalomyelitis. In any event it wouldn't hurt to get some natural anti-inflammatories into system via food. Honey is anti-inflammatory and may be easy to administer because she has to eat something. You can put a little in anything she drinks, yogurt etc…. It also has a lot of B6 which is good for helping the nervous system make the chemicals it needs. B vitamins are good for the nerves in general. M.E. falls under CFS which is probably the medical world's way of saying 'we have no clue'. I'd look at B 12 as well, because persons who take a lot of acid reflux drugs are often deficient. If the nerves are stressed, everything is compromised. This may be a longstanding deficiency. A good B complex couldn't hurt but you can over do B vitamins. I wouldn't bombard her with huge doses, especially of the pyridoxine (B 6), for example. Small changes. I'd at least make sure she is getting all the vitamins she needs.

Does she have headaches, as her DX would indicate? I read that headaches are basically a seizure of the brain. A lot of what goes wrong with digestion (vomiting/IBS etc...) is simple brain seizures, nerves not being allowed to function as they should. I am not a doctor but I am not handing out prescriptions of controlled drugs either. I have come to believe that food is key to health. There are a lot of foods that we should not be taking. Like most of what you see when you enter a big store...


reply to: Martin75

# 439

Thanks, she does't really get headaches, in her own words, she's not really a headachey sort of person.

They have given her some Ensure with her not eating well so at least she will be getting a bit more nutrition, I will mention the honey and B vits too.

Who would she need to see to discuss the ME? Would that be a neurologist? Nobody has really seriously attributed all of this to the ME yet, maybe we need to pursue that route further.

a reply to: Scouse100

Hi Scouse100

I'm sorry that you and your Mum are still going through the mill with this. One thing that occured to me when I was reading your latest summary of her symptoms was Fibromyalgia.

www.nhs.uk...

I do however agree with you that anxiety is a factor, and I know from my own experience that depression can manifest itself in physical conditions, so I think you are wise to recognise that this may be part of the situation. Stress and anxiety will both make any condition seem worse though and can become self-fulfilling.

I hope that you're taking care of yourself too, if not, make that your priority, your Mum is getting the care and attention that she needs, who's looking after you, Hun?

a reply to: Scouse100

I'm a nurse, however, I also spent years taking care of my own momma who had the same problems.

She had intractable nausea for years. She would also get sick on a regular basis because of it. Hers was caused by diabetic gastroporesis and the medicines to treat that condition (Reglan) caused her to have Parkinson's like tremors/body stiffness and muscle aches/problems so she stopped taking it.

My mom found some relief by alternating Zofran and Phenergan which are both anti-emetics. We were at the point to try and find her some sort of edible Cannabis. Her doctor said if we lived in a MMJ legal state, she would have already had the recommendation, but our state is ass-backwards when it comes to this issue. He tried prescribing her Marinol, the synthetic pill substitute but because she didn't have AIDS or cancer, they wouldn't allow him to prescribe it. TOTAL. BS.

Some people find relief with a Scopolamine patch, the kind worn when you go on a cruise to prevent sea sickness. This is especially true if the nausea is from side effects of other medications (like pain medications.)

The bottom line, she needs to see a good internal medicine (primary care) doc and get a referral to a gastroenterology specialist...They need to determine the cause of the nausea and treat the cause. SOMETHING is causing your mother to be ill all the time and they need to find out what that problem is and then go from there.

Good luck, I have been there and it is tough. But, I do not regret one second that I gave up of my life because my mom was able to stay in her home, surrounded by love, until the very end. And you won't either!!

originally posted by: Obsrvr
a reply to: Scouse100

She needs an MRI. That sounds like a brain tumor.

This is terrible...It's not very nice to just blurt out something like this. JS...

Hi Scouse,

If your mother is down to bread, water, and meds...maybe one or more of the meds or the excipients is causing the problem(s)....

Best regards,

Tarasco

Thanks Anaana, I will check that out. DH is looking after me well and kids are keeping me suitably 'distracted' for want of a better word haha!

Thanks lovebeck, yes she had tried pretty much every anti sickness med to no avail, I did read about cannabis oil which is allowed here, thought that might be worth a try if her current bunch of meds don't work. She has seen the gastro doc while in hospital, unfortunately I wasn't there when they came around but they couldn't give her an answer but they have booked her another test to look at her small intestine (about the only place they haven't explored). It was the gastro doc that sent her home with a bunch of meds to try.

Thanks Tarasco, the Dr has had her off all meds for a period of time but that didn't help so I assume it is not the meds although I do sometimes think they make things worse half the time with their side effects!

We saw the GP yesterday and cleared up a few lingering worries mum had that she might have something terminal and the like so I am hoping this will lift the anxiety somewhat and improve matters. She tweaked her meds but is reluctant to refer her anywhere else as she thinks it is all anxiety and this will make matters worse. I am not so sure, it's definitely playing a part but not convinced it is only that so will have to see how she goes and then maybe find another GP if things are not improving.

Hi guys, just coming back with an update... We went to see a professor today to get my mums results from her barium meal xray and he has given her a working diagnosis of M.E (or a relapse of M.E I guess as she was already diagnosed with that many years ago). He has a friend who has a special interest in M.E so he is asking the GP to refer her to him to be assessed and then hopefully for some of the newer treatments for M.E which I believe include CBT.

In the meantime we're going to have a look at some more natural treatments/diet etc... (some of which already mentioned in this thread). I think she is feeling a little more positive now she has some direction which will of course help how she is feeling too

Thanks everyone for your help and support!

a reply to: Scouse100

You could try GUM turpentine this kills parasites in the body as well as clearing out the arteries It Is also a very effective cancer cure, make sure you get the turpentine in a glass bottle and not plastic an art shop would be best for this, for a start take one drop on a cube of sugar (then one tablespoon a day mix it with some raw honey 4 spoons of honey to one spoon of gum turpentine then blend it all up and take a spoon a day) this can cause a toxic reaction (this is why you go easy for a week or so) with the parasites and the parasites can be seen in her stool, also go and get some silibinin from milk thistle ( this herb should be as popular as echinacea) this helps clean and support the liver it takes away the scarring from sclerosis and helps the sodium neutralise the acids in your liver if you have liver trouble then the sodium may not be working properly which is why the body breaks down.

When you are taking the lemons or limes unless you can get them by picking them yourself always wash the skins in a sink full of water and 2 ounces of vinegar for 20 minutes (we should do this with all our fruit and veg that we buy from the stores this removes a lot of the pesticides) get a blender and blend up the skins as well they are high in limonene and these remove a lot of toxins from the body then add 4 ounces of water and heat to 36 Celsius and drink within 15 minutes.

Also try sodium bicarbonate only get the medical grade one due to the mining impurities always have a lemon or lime an hour or so afterwards this will neutralise the effect the bicarb has on your stomach acids.

Cut out all meat and dairy if they do not know what she has got it is pointless using these foods as they are toxic to us and you get very little energy out of them, the body uses 80% of it's energy it gets from meat in digesting and excreting the food also when you cook meat it kills the protein in it,
apple cider vinegar is essential for the body and the ACV is great at neutralising toxins


To repopulate her stomach bacteria is going to be essential for her you need to take licorice root for this some people can have a reaction to it so again go easy to start with she will need around 20 - 25 grams a day it normally only takes about a week but start with a tiny amount on her skin first to see if its ok then a tiny pinch in some pure water do not drink tap water either chlorine and fluoride are both major toxins that accumulate over time so cutting them out will only be beneficial. also get some potato and squeeze the juice out of it add about 30 ml of raw honey to the juice and sip in the morning on an empty stomach.
All meals should only consist of vegetable broth nothing solid until she gets better.
one other thing does she have any fillings or root canals if so get them removed the mercury acts on the central nervous system and the root canals will just smash her.