Need help with chronic, debilitating nausea

Hi guys, my mum is very ill with chronic nausea and we really are getting nowhere fast with the Drs. I thought I would call upon you clever bunch to see if you can shed some light.

She has been ill for months now but practically bed bound with it for the last 2-3 months. It's not just nausea, it's constant, severe 'on the edge of vomiting' nausea that as you can imagine would just about drive you insane. She is struggling to eat but forcing bit down but has lost a stone and looks terrible.

The Drs are trying to work it out but the process is unbearably slow as there are so many things to rule out. So far she has had various blood tests, intolerance tests, urine tests and has been to the ear nose and throat dr who has ruled out that area as a cause. Next up is the gastro dr but we are still waiting for a slot and it could be weeks.

She has in the past been DX with M.E., hiatus hernia/acid reflux, IBS. It gets worse a while after eating and she seems to be woken by it early hours most mornings if this gives any clues?

Antacids and even the strongest anti sickness meds don't touch it.

Does anyone have any ideas, we are desparate! Anything she can try while waiting for the tests?

Thanks for your time!

Cannabis.

Second.

We can name it as muchmadness just did....but we can't discuss it.

a reply to: Scouse100
Ginger is the best natural nausea reliever that I know of.

If making tea you will need…
- 1 ginger root, 2 inches
-Honey (optional)
-A peeler or sharp knife
-2-3 cups of water
-Wax paper
-A cutting board
Directions
Wash your gingerroot well and then peel. Slice it into small pieces, cover with wax paper, and crush it or make your pieces extra small. Boil 2-3 cups of water over medium high heat and then add your ginger, letting it boil for 3-5 minutes. Remove from heat and strain if you like, or pour everything into your mug. Add honey if you like. Sip slowly and relax.

Source: Every Day Roots

Baking soda and water. My uncle swore by it for acid reflux. One huge belch and he felt fine.


Edit; it's on the side of the box, but she'll have to sit up straight to belch.

I don't know if you can find it where you are at, but Target stores sell an organic tea brand called Clipper that has a variety called After Dinner Mints. It's a blend of peppermint, spearmint, fennel and ginger. We used it here when we all had the stomach bug this past winter and it seemed to do the trick. All those ingredients are supposed to help settle the stomach.

Thanks guys! There is no way I would get my mum to do that but I am sure it would help, although she is desperate so who knows.

Ginger she has tried for her nausea in the past but with no effect unfortunately, she is one of those people who is very hard to treat as she doesn't generally respond to meds or natural remedies that usually work.

I will get her to try the baking soda if she can get it down, worth a shot!

a reply to: Scouse100

Gluten, Go Gluten free for a couple of weeks and see if that takes care of it.


Google Gluten, Nausea, IBS, acid reflux and you will get tons of information on this. Definitely something to check into and cannot hurt as you wait for tests to come back.

Have they checked they checked for gallbladder issues?

Find the cause, not treat a symptom

www.livestrong.com...

a reply to: Scouse100

I'm only qualified as an EMT Life Support, so I can't contradict any Dr.s.....but find the cause of nausea seems to be the answer she needs....and don't look to cure or find a way to abate it.

Find the cause...and it should go away symptomatically. In other words, its not a problem, but a reaction to the cause.

Pancreas and bile (dark thin vomiting) and gallbladder secreatiions can cause some horrendous vomiting and nausea.

Had it myself. God bless and good luck to her and yourself.
MS
EMT/Advanced Disaster Life Support

a reply to: Scouse100

If you live in the US, in a state where at least medical use of cannabis is legal, then this doesn't even need to be an issue.

I just feel sorry for all the people where its still illegal and have to suffer with conditions like this, that could easily be treated with some erb, if it where just legal.

originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: Scouse100

Gluten, Go Gluten free for a couple of weeks and see if that takes care of it.


Google Gluten, Nausea, IBS, acid reflux and you will get tons of information on this. Definitely something to check into.

Find the cause, not treat a symptom

www.livestrong.com...

Thanks yes she has tried that and dairy earlier on when she first got sick and it didn't help. I was convinced it was that too to be honest.

a reply to: mysterioustranger

Yes totally agree there, that is the ultimate aim, would be nice to help her in the meantime before she goes insane if poss too. I did read about gallbladder issues being a possible cause actually, would a scan pick that up? The Dr did mention booking her a scan but again no slot yet.

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

Perhaps the answer is a relocation

a reply to: Scouse100

First thing that occurs to me is an elimination diet to see what the culprit is. I suggest going without gluten for three days. If she doesn't get better, go without lactose (milk, cheese, etc) for a few days.

Does she have a gall bladder? That could be the problem.

It could also be her pancreas, but the doctors should have already checked that.

I'm so sorry, it sounds miserable...

a reply to: Scouse100

Sorry your mum is suffering so There are several things that could help; if it's from chronic reflux she may very well have Barrett's Esophagus and only surgery will cure it, but she may find some relief by doing these things:

1. Warm water and baking soda (not baking powder, sodium bicarbonate), 4oz to 1/2 teaspoon dissolved. It will be very salty but if she can down it quickly it's not too bad. It will neutralize some of the acid so it doesn't come creeping up the esophagus. She can follow with more warm water if she wants.

2. White vinegar, one or two sips, straight and undiluted. It'll burn for a few seconds but will neutralize and break up the acid chyme. Alternately, she can drink pickle juice for the same effect.

3. Cannabis. Can't really expound on that here, but it will quell nausea and very quickly too.

4. Ice cold skim milk. It should provide almost instant relief from reflux symptoms.

5. Drink 8oz. of very warm water with a tablespoon of raw honey dissolved in it. Honey is a natural anti-inflammatory agent and will also neutralize acid.

Of course I'm sure she already knows this but avoid eating/drinking anything before lying down, at least 2 hours prior. Do not lie flat; either prop pillows or put a couple of cinderblocks between the mattress and box springs of the bed to elevate the head of the bed. Do not drink ice water, caffeine or anything carbonated...it exacerbates reflux. Do not eat anything with a lot of sodium...it exacerbates reflux and inhibits digestion. No chocolate, peanut butter, cheese (especially sharp cheese), spicy food, and avoid sweets because sugar makes it worse.

I hope she is able to get treatment very soon.

I DEALT WITH THIS FOR AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It started when I was 8 years old after a particularly bad case of "stomach flu". I now believe it was a bacterial infection. Not a viral stomach bug.

My mom took me to doctors and specialists. Nothing helped. I just dealt with it.

Fast forward to about 5 years ago. I was 25. I ran into a woman who had been dealing with severe nausea and acid reflux, ibs, etc etc. She told me to fast on nothing but coconut water, lemon water, and cucumber/mint water for 3 days. Then reintroduce healthy bacteria into your gut. Either by taking supplements or eating probiotic rich foods. Since I can't really handle strange foods, I just took supplements and ate unprocessed/flavored/colored yogurt and real whole organic milk which was pretty much straight from the cow. Do this while still maintaining an almost all liquid diet for 3 more days. Then introduce vegetables, then fruits, grains, meat if you eat it. I stayed away from meat for 6 months. But that's just what I felt was necessary for me.

I did all of this. And now would say that I am at about 90%. I still get strange bouts of nausea which happen in the morning or if I awake in the middle of the night.
I do know my stomach is extremely acidic and I digest things lightning fast. So eventhough they say to not eat before bed, I have to eat something light or I wake up all nauseous and acidy

But it was horrible. I feel for her. So many times I would have to pull over on the side of the road, or leave restaurants, friends houses, events, etc because of that urge to vomit. I was taking prescription anti-nausea meds, anxiety meds, and so on.
So I basically reset the balance in my gut, watch what I eat (no processed foods) and avoid alcohol and the like. I just have a sensitive system I believe. I've had to go on antibiotics a few times since then, and that has been a nightmare.

Good luck to her.

Have you thought about her balance?

I had a distant cousin who suffers from a type of dementia that first manifested with a progressive loss of balance. For some people that loss of equilibrium can be very nauseating.

originally posted by: Scouse100
a reply to: Subaeruginosa

Perhaps the answer is a relocation

Without wishing to violate t&c's theres lots of ways to take a certain substance that would and could make her feel a little better while waiting for a more permanent solution.

I had a friend who was unwilling to go down that route but was happy to have chemothearapy??

Radioation over a natural plant seems odd but somewhat understandable.

a reply to: Scouse100

She needs an MRI. That sounds like a brain tumor.

a reply to: Scouse100

Yes it would show up...an indicator is dark green brown watering vomiting on completely empty stomach. The clue is the violent vomiting causes more vomiting which causes more nausea which cause more vomiting....over and over.

Still...I'm not qualified for medical diagnosis over than emergency medical triage in assessing injuries....so it did ring a bell.

Get competent real medical help. God bless...MS