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Ukraine troops shelled by pro-Russian rebels near Mariupol

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posted on Apr, 23 2015 @ 02:32 PM
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Pro-Russian rebels have shelled Ukrainian army positions east of the key city of Mariupol in breach of a ceasefire deal, the BBC has witnessed.

Our correspondent was with Ukrainian troops when they came under heavy fire moments after a team of international monitors left the area.

This comes a day after the US accused Russia of sending more troops to the region. Moscow denies any involvement.


Ukraine troops shelled by pro-Russian rebels near Mariupol

Ever since the ceasefire was brokered we've heard reports of continued fighting around Mariupol. If that wasn't the case before it certainly is now. On top of claims that Russia is once more providing troops and arms to the separatists it looks like it's going to be another violent summer for Ukraine.




posted on Apr, 23 2015 @ 02:44 PM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254




Ever since the ceasefire was brokered we've heard reports of continued fighting around Mariupol.


The separatists have always said Mariupol was not covered by the ceasefire, so they will try to take it with help from Russia of course.



posted on Apr, 23 2015 @ 03:19 PM
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With Russia saying they are considering recognizing the DPR and LPR, well it was only a matter of time.

Russia is going to learn its lesson the hard way apparently.



posted on Apr, 23 2015 @ 03:26 PM
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I hope everybody is ready for this
The kitchen is cooking again and it's hot like hell



posted on Apr, 23 2015 @ 04:25 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
With Russia saying they are considering recognizing the DPR and LPR, well it was only a matter of time.

Russia is going to learn its lesson the hard way apparently.


The hard way eh, what are you going to do about it?

Going to post some lines about "turning them into a glass field?" with your awesome American nukes?



posted on Apr, 23 2015 @ 04:31 PM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

You are a little late in making your conclusions . I would have thought that the announcements about sending western military trainers and assets to Ukraine might have made you think that the war was still on the table despite the Minsk2 agreement . Yea ,Kiev are sending both Blackwater and other military assets to the east . The game is on for another season .....



posted on Apr, 23 2015 @ 05:05 PM
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a reply to: bullcat

If you paid attention to what Russia was told about their presence in Ukraine and a failure of the Minsk agreement you would not need to ask such a stupid question.



posted on Apr, 23 2015 @ 05:33 PM
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www.telegraph.co.uk...

Russia masses more forces near Ukraine border

A new build-up is under way with Russia deploying air defence units inside Ukraine and massing more troops on the border, says US State Department.

It seems the spring offensive has just started. Once Mariupol is taken, then NAF should have easy going all the way to Moldvian border, linking Crimea with Russia.



posted on Apr, 23 2015 @ 05:35 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: bullcat

If you paid attention to what Russia was told about their presence in Ukraine and a failure of the Minsk agreement you would not need to ask such a stupid question.



Maybe they need more Nuland branded cookies.

This is OUR backyard, not YOURS.

Take your dirty boots and run around your own home with them. Not ours.


WE are the people that end up paying for it, in fact we already are, thanks to you lot.

Americans are NOT our allies. They say they are but those are just words, in reality, they have done nothing but cost us and made us get the hard end of the stick.




edit on 23-4-2015 by bullcat because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 23 2015 @ 06:23 PM
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Actually its Ukraine sovereign territory and not Russians. Ukraine asked for help because of the russian invasion and illegal occupation of Ukrainian territory. So it very much is our business.

Russia bit off more than it can chew and is about to starting choking.



posted on Apr, 23 2015 @ 07:09 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: bullcat

Actually its Ukraine sovereign territory and not Russians. Ukraine asked for help because of the russian invasion and illegal occupation of Ukrainian territory. So it very much is our business.

Russia bit off more than it can chew and is about to starting choking.



SO take all your military "road tour" out of our countries and stick them in Ukraine then.



posted on Apr, 23 2015 @ 07:31 PM
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a reply to: bullcat

Right after Russia withdraws its invasion / occupation forces from Ukraine, Georgia and Moldova.



posted on Apr, 23 2015 @ 07:37 PM
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Nice reporting of BBC again, the Ukrainians have been going at it constantly for some time now...


US stirring up commotion over fictitious Russian troops as NATO summit getting closer



posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 01:46 AM
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a reply to: BornAgainAlien

Yes, yes it is. If you actually took the time to read the article (or any one of the other BBC articles on this topic) you'd know they have been reporting on ceasefire violations for quite some time. The only reason this one has generated more interest is because international monitors were present at the time of the attack..

But then, we know you don't read anything and make up your own nonsense despite evidence to the contrary, so what's one more nonsensical rambling to add to the others, hey?



posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 04:13 AM
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BBC is doing the exact same reporting as it did last summer and between Minsk 1 & 2...

...trying to make the impression both sides are at fault by emphasizing the sporadic counter fire coming from Separatists side, while the Ukrainian side is being the sole perpetrator doing the provocations on a daily basis...so again very crappy reporting of the BBC.



posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 04:52 AM
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So you're problem with the BBC is that they would appear to be unbiased and reporting on violations from both sides, when you would prefer them to focus solely on the transgressions by the Ukraine Government and ignore the blatant violations from not only the rebels but also their Russian backers?

Righty ho...



posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 06:39 AM
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originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: stumason

BBC is doing the exact same reporting as it did last summer and between Minsk 1 & 2...

...trying to make the impression both sides are at fault by emphasizing the sporadic counter fire coming from Separatists side, while the Ukrainian side is being the sole perpetrator doing the provocations on a daily basis...so again very crappy reporting of the BBC.


Wait, what?
We already have evidence of both sides violating the ceasefire, while everyone knew was going to happen given that Ukraine is defending itself from an invading Russian army, and your complaint is that the BBC isn't biased in your favor?

Man, you get funnier with each passing pro-Russian rant.



posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 08:57 AM
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Wait, what? We already have evidence of both sides violating the ceasefire, while everyone knew was going to happen given that Ukraine is defending itself from an invading Russian army, and your complaint is that the BBC isn't biased in your favor?

Man, you get funnier with each passing pro-Russian rant.



All of Ukraine blocked by the gridlock from the successive Russian invasions



Well it finally happened. After Russia's 183rd invasion of Ukraine, they’ve completely run out of parking places to accommodate any more Russian troops, tanks, howitzers, rocket launchers, or cruise missiles.

"We’re stuck here in the gridlock! No need for Putin to attack any more. The place is completely occupied, in the literal sense of the word!"

Public employees are finding themselves unable to get to work. Public transport is at a standstill, and the rickshaw drivers are charging astronomical fees. Bicycle? Good idea, but all the bicycles are sold out.

To get a handle on the crisis, the Department of the Interior has embarked on drastic measures. “When just lately an old woman phoned us to complain that she couldn’t go shopping because all downtown was cluttered with Russian tanks, it became clear to us that we had to do something to solve the parking problem,” said a spokesman by means of a circular that the staff of AMR is releasing.

As a first measure we are leasing open fields in neighboring Poland. “There the Russians can park any further war materiel so that the streets can be open again and the worst of the parking problem can be resolved.”

However, this rental arrangement entails some risk, since Poland is a NATO member and this deal could be interpreted as a declaration of war. Solution? “We have identified Polish private contractors. The government and NATO know nothing about it, and the probability that they will find out about it is minimal: since they couldn’t find any Russian tanks in their satellite photos, they are even less likely to get any photographic evidence there in Poland."

Nevertheless, the Kiev administration is working hard to find some alternative work-around, and are now in talks with Belarus, which in turn is linked with Moscow. And that ought to present no problems, since the road to Minsk would be shorter.





posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 04:05 PM
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You are a little late in making your conclusions . I would have thought that the announcements about sending western military trainers and assets to Ukraine might have made you think that the war was still on the table despite the Minsk2 agreement .


So, let me get this right...Russia can send arms, troops, and has trained the separatists, but when the US sends 300 troops to train the Ukrainian army at the Ukrainian gov't's request and Russia get's mad.

Wow! The hypocrisy runs deep in that government.

Also care to provide the part in the Minsk Agreement where it states if the US trains Ukraine's military they are in violation of the agreement?



posted on Apr, 24 2015 @ 04:19 PM
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...trying to make the impression both sides are at fault by emphasizing the sporadic counter fire coming from Separatists side, while the Ukrainian side is being the sole perpetrator doing the provocations on a daily basis...so again very crappy reporting of the BBC.


You do understand that the fighting is still going on by both sides, because Mariupol is the next target for the separatists...which they say isn't covered by the Minsk Agreement, which it is.


• Pullout of all foreign armed formations, military equipment, and also mercenaries from the territory of Ukraine under OSCE supervision. Disarmament of all illegal groups.


www.telegraph.co.uk...

So now that the separatists are gunning for Mariupol they have violated the agreement, by not removing those things they have violated the agreement. Now as soon as they fire at Mariupol it is in violation of the agreement also...and the Ukraine do to by firing back.

So both sides have violated the agreement...you really need to do some better research.



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