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Where is the Outrage to close Muslim bakeries for not serving Gays?

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posted on Apr, 3 2015 @ 01:25 PM
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originally posted by: ProfessorChaos
a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

The question in the OP still stands.
Where is the outrage?
Why would the LGBT community attack one group for supossed discrimination, and yet ignore another?
After all, discrimination is discrimination, isn't it?


0.6% versus 76%......pitiful




posted on Apr, 3 2015 @ 01:34 PM
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originally posted by: ProfessorChaos
The question in the OP still stands.
Where is the outrage?
Why would the LGBT community attack one group for supossed discrimination, and yet ignore another?


If the bakery had broken the law, you might see some outrage. This wasn't a real case of discrimination. The guy didn't even want a wedding cake. No lawsuit, no laws broken.

Yes, it's discrimination, but it's permitted by the state.



posted on Apr, 3 2015 @ 01:36 PM
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a reply to: Prezbo369

My man Sam Harris explains it pretty good here. (JRE IN DA HOUSE!)
sam harris

Annnnyyyy way

No there wouldn't be an incident every single day of the week... Like I said a lot of these people struggle to even provide daily nutrition to their families. The western world is very spoiled in what we can accomplish on even a whim. These fools dedicate their entire lives and salaries and families lives to this cause and some manage to do great damage to the west with only a few hundred bucks worth of resources... That's what's so scary.. If they had real money it would be a serious problem.

While this is all a bit off topic here I think it's a valid question to ask "where is the outrage?"

Maybe it's because cnn and fox news know there viewership wouldn't be able to relate to that argument? Hell maybe if cnn and Fox News ran this story more Christians might be able to relate to Muslims... Maybe that's the play.....

TIN FOIL HATS ON BEYOND THIS POINT


Maybe the Jews who run Hollywood and the news don't want to unite Christians and Muslims through the hate of gays? Holy geebus and jinkies I that's gotta be it!
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posted on Apr, 3 2015 @ 01:46 PM
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a reply to: mindseye1609

Lol you didn't read that article did you....

You seem to have a very high opinion of the west and what it can accomplish and a very low opinion around 320 million Muslims and what they can accomplish. I wonder how many poor Muslims it would take to make an IED?.....

It's all entirely irrelevant anyway, this is about Christians attempting to shed/share their bigotry, and it simply doesn't fly in the face of the percentages of each group in the US.

It's pitiful, and whats even more ridiculous is that they think it's a worthy point to make! ha!



posted on Apr, 3 2015 @ 02:02 PM
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a reply to: Prezbo369

Yes I did. And Sam equates te majority of it to "political facing extremism" but I wager more of it has to do with logistics. Everyone just assumes that if you have the thought "hmm I'm gonna go blow up someone" you can just act on it and then boom... You blow someone up... It doesnt work that way..

The illiteracy alone among Islamic extremists is pretty high. That right there keeps you from accomplishing much.. And just because someone fills you in on how to make boom.. Still you have no idea..

I'd wager that a big portion of the extremists are fence riders too and aren't willing to throw away their own lives to just stab a few people or shoot a few people because it's all they are able to accomplish with such little resources. That's gonna get you people that just go about their day to day and then when someone comes knocking with a dishka for them to man... Or a passport and some flight lessons... They jump at the chance. (The AAA team I was speaking of)

The richest 1% of the world make $34,000 and up.. That's makes us pretty able to act on our whims in the United states and the west... We are the 1%.

If it's not fair for a Christian to turn down a gay it's not fair for a Muslim to turn down a gay it's not fair for a Buddhist to turn down a gay it's not fair for an atheist to turn down a gay it's not fair for a straight person to turn down a gay it's not fair for a woman to turn down a gay it's not fair for a man to turn down a gay it's not fair for a Viking to turn down a gay it's not fair for a Native American to turn down a gay(maybe on reservation lol) it's not fair for a hippy to turn down a gay it's not fair for a meathead to turn down a gay it's not fair to refuse service to someone because the gay....

That is IF ITS NOT FAIR for a Christian.... Which Imo... You should be able too refuse whoever you want in a private business, not for illogical reasons of course.. But if for whatever reason someone has invaded the sanctity of your business so terribly bad... Then service should be allowed to be refused... Because it's 2 dudes getting married... Man come on! You know the weddins gonna be awesome BAKE THAT CAKE SON and go party down like party monster lol.

But if some dude came up into my bakery all Richard Simmons letting all my customers see his moose knuckle... He's outa there lol



posted on Apr, 3 2015 @ 02:12 PM
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Here I go - repeating myself yet again.

The fake gay guy asked the Muslim bakers to decorate a pro-gay slogan on a cake. There is no outrage because a baker can refuse to decorate a cake in any way that may be offensive to him, i.e., penis, boobs, porn, etc. There would have been more outrage (from me at least) if the Muslim bakers had refused to sell a traditional generic wedding cake to the fake gay guy. But that isn't what happened.

Show me an example of a Muslim baker who refused to sell a generic wedding cake to a gay person that they would sell to anyone else, and I will say that it is wrong.



posted on Apr, 3 2015 @ 02:19 PM
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originally posted by: Prezbo369

originally posted by: Telos

originally posted by: Prezbo369


Muslims account for 0.6% of the population lol


And gays amount to the same figure. Yet they crave so much attention. Real princesses with tantrum for attention. Gee, leave the pillow at home and let society deal with what really matters.


No they just want to be treated like everyone else......but I can tell you have no interest in that.


I'm sorry, I don't. I think there are more important things to deal with in today's reality. That doesn't mean I don't respect your right to live and let live. I just think sometimes is blown out of proportions.



posted on Apr, 3 2015 @ 02:20 PM
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originally posted by: Ironhawke

originally posted by: Telos

originally posted by: Prezbo369


Muslims account for 0.6% of the population lol


And gays amount to the same figure. Yet they crave so much attention. Real princesses with tantrum for attention. Gee, leave the pillow at home and let society deal with what really matters.


Ah, the good old ad hominem attack. Good call. Really makes me wanna take your side! Actually it isn't a tantrum when you want to be treated like everyone else. I myself am pretty ticked..except that I see this for what it is : yet another attempt by certain parties to stir crap up. There will be outrage, but let's face it, Muslims in this country aren't scurrying about like rodents trying to pass laws to marginalize folks, make discrimination legal or, you know, force states to shoot me in the head.


I respect your opinion. However it doesn't make me change mine. Cheers!!!



posted on Apr, 3 2015 @ 02:55 PM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv

Show me an example of a Muslim baker who refused to sell a generic wedding cake to a gay person that they would sell to anyone else, and I will say that it is wrong.



.... crickets.... still waiting.....



posted on Apr, 3 2015 @ 03:00 PM
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a reply to: kaylaluv

No you pretty much nailed it..

If there's no offense (my moose knuckle comment earlier) then there is no reason to discriminate... But no one has the right to make some one else work for them and create something that makes them feel uncomfortable..

It's really just common sense



posted on Apr, 3 2015 @ 03:37 PM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

And?

Strawman arguments.

Bigots are bigots. There are bigots from everywhere.

I admit, It's clever propaganda tying in Muslims to try and bring on another hate fest, against them and divert attention, but that's all it is.

It doesn't stop people being bigots, does it?



posted on Apr, 3 2015 @ 03:44 PM
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originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

originally posted by: ProfessorChaos
The question in the OP still stands.
Where is the outrage?
Why would the LGBT community attack one group for supossed discrimination, and yet ignore another?


If the bakery had broken the law, you might see some outrage. This wasn't a real case of discrimination. The guy didn't even want a wedding cake. No lawsuit, no laws broken.

Yes, it's discrimination, but it's permitted by the state.



Memories pizzeria never actually discriminated against anyone. They were asked by a reporter if they would ever cater a gay wedding, and answered the question. No customer approached them. No one was 'discriminated' against, yet it's now open season on them.

These Muslim bakeries refused what they believed to be a serious request for a cake to be served at a gay wedding, and actively refused.

So again, where is the outrage?



posted on Apr, 3 2015 @ 03:50 PM
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originally posted by: Prezbo369

originally posted by: ProfessorChaos
a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

The question in the OP still stands.
Where is the outrage?
Why would the LGBT community attack one group for supossed discrimination, and yet ignore another?
After all, discrimination is discrimination, isn't it?


0.6% versus 76%......pitiful

You just seem unwilling to grasp the fact that this story points out that hypocrisy is on full display by the LGBT activists, by trying to paint this as 'Christians going after Muslims', rather than what it is.



posted on Apr, 3 2015 @ 04:27 PM
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a reply to: ProfessorChaos

Yet again, I will ask... where is the example here of a Muslim bakery refusing to sell a generic wedding cake with no pro-gay decoration whatsoever to an actual gay person? Because that is what happened with the Christian baker. And the pizza company didn't say that they wouldn't put pro-gay toppings on the pizza - they said they wouldn't sell the same pizza that they sell to anyone else to a gay wedding.



posted on Apr, 3 2015 @ 04:36 PM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: ProfessorChaos

Yet again, I will ask... where is the example here of a Muslim bakery refusing to sell a generic wedding cake with no pro-gay decoration whatsoever to an actual gay person? Because that is what happened with the Christian baker. And the pizza company didn't say that they wouldn't put pro-gay toppings on the pizza - they said they wouldn't sell the same pizza that they sell to anyone else to a gay wedding.


Incorrect. They said they would not cater a gay wedding. Not just sell a pizza, but cater, which would entail them having to go to the gay wedding.

The O'Connor family told ABC 57 news that if a gay couple or a couple belonging to another religion came in to the restaurant to eat, they would never deny them service.

The O'Connors say they just don't agree with gay marriages and wouldn't cater them if asked to.
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posted on Apr, 3 2015 @ 04:41 PM
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Oh please - we are talking pizza here. It doesn't require someone to stick around and serve it to you. You deliver it and people grab a slice of pizza. The pizza owner's point was that they wouldn't even deliver pizzas to a gay wedding.

I'm still waiting for someone to point out to me where a Muslim baker refused to sell a generic wedding cake to the fake gay guy.



posted on Apr, 3 2015 @ 04:42 PM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: ProfessorChaos

Yet again, I will ask... where is the example here of a Muslim bakery refusing to sell a generic wedding cake with no pro-gay decoration whatsoever to an actual gay person? Because that is what happened with the Christian baker. And the pizza company didn't say that they wouldn't put pro-gay toppings on the pizza - they said they wouldn't sell the same pizza that they sell to anyone else to a gay wedding.


That is not what happened with Memories Pizza. They were asked if they'd ever cater a gay wedding, by a reporter, not a customer.



posted on Apr, 3 2015 @ 04:49 PM
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Really this depends on who or what they serve them to..And , yes , where is the outrage ?



posted on Apr, 3 2015 @ 04:50 PM
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originally posted by: ProfessorChaos

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: ProfessorChaos

Yet again, I will ask... where is the example here of a Muslim bakery refusing to sell a generic wedding cake with no pro-gay decoration whatsoever to an actual gay person? Because that is what happened with the Christian baker. And the pizza company didn't say that they wouldn't put pro-gay toppings on the pizza - they said they wouldn't sell the same pizza that they sell to anyone else to a gay wedding.


That is not what happened with Memories Pizza. They were asked if they'd ever cater a gay wedding, by a reporter, not a customer.


So are you saying that if a customer asked them to, they'd do it?



posted on Apr, 3 2015 @ 04:57 PM
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a reply to: kaylaluv

No. They made it clear that they wouldn't, but they were NEVER asked to. No discrimination has taken place, and yet they've been attacked for answering a question. By the way, during the same interview, the owners made it clear that they wouldn't turn a customer away for being gay, they simply would not take any part in a gay wedding.

How evil of them! (sarcasm)

Meanwhile (even though it's apparent that no one wants to address it), the Muslim bakeries engage in what the Memories Pizzeria is accused of, and they get a pass. Why? Quite simply, Christians are okay to attack and smear, while Muslims are not.




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