posted on Mar, 4 2015 @ 12:27 AM
a reply to: neformore
While I understand and can at a certain degree agree with you, it's just not hard for us Norwegians to believe. Over the past ten years we have seen
a steady increase of crime in Oslo and other communities brought to us by mass immigration from the middle east. Even our reluctant and extremely
liberal news papers that try very hard not to step on toes have started to address the problem.
Here is a liberal news site that states that in Oktober 2014 over 1500 people were deported. 21% of these were to afghanistan, others to Somalia and
other countries. Both of these countries are primarily muslim. I dont think it is a far stretch to believe that 800 muslims were deported.
a reply to: theabsolutetruth
It is frusterating. I dont think it is all the immigrants fault though. I think we should give the blame down the middle. Our governments have
allowed this unchecked immigration into our countries and haven't put up enough resources to deal with the complications it brings. Not enough
integration for example. I have a Muslim friend who had to pull his own weight while he waited for a yes or a no on his papers to stay. He taught
himself the language and strived very hard to find a job. It is an uphill battle for nearly all immigrants to integrate.
Then we have the other side, those who come because they know our governments hand out freebies left and right. My friend mentioned above told me
that word of mouth spreads quickly. Once one immigrant makes it he tells everyone back home exactly how to get into the country and how to delay the
authorities long enough that they grant you amnesty because your case took to long. They do this by giving false names and places they come from.
Many have thrown away their passports when they came to make it impossible to find out who they are.
They then start to form their own little communities and get help from the local government to start their own company like coffee shops, food stores
and clothe shops making it so they do not need to learn the language.
It is a bad situation and I have many ex liberal friends that in 2005 said they were for opening our borders only to have them on the opposite side
today in opinion. I dont think stopping immigration is the answer. We just need managable flow of immigrants and a better method of integrating
them. We also cant be afraid to send criminals back home or people who lied to get here. We also cant be afraid to say no!
It is now to a point where it is hurting ethnic norwegians to. I remember a few years ago I was listening to the radio when they said that trygd
(disability pension) because so many immigrants were abusing it by faking injury and getting trygd and moving back to their country. (You are allowed
to move once you get trygd.)
How is this fair to us norwegians? Our oil fund too is running out because we are unable to carry the burden of immigrants who do not pay taxes.
That is also for norwegians who do the same but the influx of so many immigrants over the past 10 years have really put a strain on us.