a reply to: xuenchen
Hi, I'm new here and your thread made me want to sign up. I'm Norwegian so I thought I'd have my say. When arbeiderpartiet was in charge under
Jens Stoltenberg, the immigration system was in shambles. I don't know if if was in shambles on purpose, or ignorance, probably both.
We'd take in various immigrants for various reasons (asylum, immigration etc.) no matter where they came from with or without documentation of where
they came from. It was a free-for-all. It took forever to go through these immigrants backgrounds to see who had a valid reason for staying, so long
in fact thanks to the convoluted immigration system that several years had passed and they were (for the most part) allowed to stay. Even if they
lied to get into Norway, just because Jens Stoltenberg took forever in setting up a system (or setting up resources rather for the system in place)
that the government "took pity" on them and their case which took so long to process.
Many immigrants knew this thanks to word of mouth from those who came before them, that the system took so long and that they would more than likely
get to stay if the government couldn't prove they needed asylum or not within a reasonable time. So many of the immigrants friends would come to
Norway via plane, and end up ditching their passports as soon as they arrived and then go claim asylum as a "papirløs flyktning" (paperless asylum
seeker). This made it EXTREMELY difficult for the government to figure out who these people were, and has helped the immigrants to stay in Norway.
Many really disliked Jens Stoltenbergs "open border" policy (which is what many of us called it) and hence why the current party got into office.
And yes, the crime rates are slowly starting to decline. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that for every year we allowed a virtually
unchecked immigration to take place, the crime statistics would rise. And it's not like we norwegians became extra violent for each year that passed
We have a very poor integration system. Blend that together with immigrants who do not want to integrate and you end up having certain places in Oslo
where immigrants who have lived in Norway for 10+ years can't speak any Norwegian at all, shop at only immigrant owned businesses, all located in the
same area. You get pockets of people who do not want to be Norwegian, follow our laws, or things like that. You'll see these places increase in
crime. Some places in Oslo are so bad you do not visit after a specific time.
It may not be politically correct to mention this, I know it isn't in Norway. But it is what is happening here. Thats the problem, people don't
want to talk about the problems because its viewed as racist to bring up such matters. But if we don't bring them up, what will happen in the
I am sure many people here will shake their head in disbelief, I'm sorry that you are so blinded. Because your inability to see outside of what you
deem politically correct is directly hurting hundreds, if not thousands or more Norwegians and our future. The same for other European countries.
Sweden isn't doing much better, Denmark and other countries too.
Sorry for spelling and grammar, english isn't a language I write daily in.