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originally posted by: Lucid Lunacy
a reply to: r0xor
To my knowledge there isn't a single instruction in the New Testament to commit any acts of violence or mistreatment on anyone, especially because of their faith, lack there-of, or any other mitigating factor.
Luke 12:45-48 ESV
45 But if that servant says to himself, ‘My master is delayed in coming,’ and begins to beat the male and female servants, and to eat and drink and get drunk, 46 the master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he does not know, and will cut him in pieces and put him with the unfaithful. 47 And that servant who knew his master's will but did not get ready or act according to his will, will receive a severe beating. 48 But the one who did not know, and did what deserved a beating, will receive a light beating. Everyone to whom much was given, of him much will be required, and from him to whom they entrusted much, they will demand the more.
^Murder, violence, and slavery condoned. That qualifies as mistreatment to me. Notice too the slaves that were not even aware they did wrong still got a beating.
originally posted by: celticdog
a reply to: Borisbanger
Mohammed called himself the last prophet. Yea pray and keep paying the zakat(Tax). He threw in all the old testament prophets and made them part of the Quran.
I decided to read the Quran because of all this Islamic stuff going on. For the last couple of weeks or so I have been looking into Islam mainly just Youtube videos and yes mostly they were negative. A couple of days ago a read a brief history of Mohammed so yesterday I decided to read the Quran. I wanted to see if there was something to this book. I read an online version here www.alislam.org...
I only read to chapter 5:11 As for those who disbelieve and reject our signs, they are the people of hell.
Sura Al-Maidah (The Table Spread) (5:11)
O you who have believed, remember the favor of Allah upon you when a people determined to extend their hands [in aggression] against you, but He withheld their hands from you; and fear Allah . And upon Allah let the believers rely.
My first impression was a monotony of lists after lists of do's and don'ts.
Second it repeated quite a few things over and over like frequent prayers and pay the zakat
The third which is really glaring to me how Allah is all knowing, seeing and merciful but only to his followers but to unbelievers they go straight to hell or burn in fire which is mentioned and repeated multiple times. Even some verses are repeated almost word for word and I am only on chapter 5.
It mentioned that Jews and Christians go to hell.
Also not to have unbelievers as friends.
My fourth impression is that what I have read so far is not very spiritual at all. I only see negativity and I have gotten nothing good from it and if I converted which by the sounds of it they do want that, it is convert or go to hell, it is the repetitive praying and dare I say hatred for the nonbeliever would get me down. I think I would blow myself up too.
I am not going to read anymore. I am done with the Quran.
originally posted by: LightAssassin
a reply to: ISeekTruth101
It is as Charlie said....it is the Angels delivering the message to Muhammed, when they speak of we...
I suspect it is the same Angels who spoke the words 'Let us make man in our image, after our likeness', yes, we were not created by God but by his understudies.