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I grew up in Rural New Mexico in 90's. And yes the whack left quite a knot on my noggin for a few days. But you know what? I deserved it. My mother worked hard raising four children almost by herself, on a minimum wage job. She was superwoman, and I had no right to disrespect her just because I was having a hissy fit about not being able to hang out with friends.
originally posted by: ladyinwaiting
originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
One: The way a child wears their hair is completely at the discretion of their parents until age 18 in the United States.
originally posted by: ladyinwaiting
a reply to: ScientificRailgun
A bad hair cut? No. A hair cut in which a child receives by request of a parent to specifically to cause humiliation? To put him on display with a punishment that says "I'm bad", "I'm being punished"?
Absolutely. How is this different than the child who was forced to wear a diaper?
Two: The haircut doesn't put the kid on display as "I'm bad, I'm being punished". It's just a bad haircut. The only person who knows it was punishment is the child, the barber, and the parent. Unless the kid blabs that he got it as punishment, nobody has to know.
Three:
I'm sorry, but "timeouts" or taking away their games or cell phones does little to correct awful behaviour. I say this should be reserved only for those special kind of little brat that is simply unrepentant no matter what other non-violent methods you try, but it's an option, and I support any parent who does this as a last resort.
You are way, way off on this. I saw on an earlier post that you were hit on the face with a 'frying pan'. If that left a bruise or any kind of mark, and you were in the U.S., your mother would very likely have had the police and CPS knocking on her door.
I don't know where you live, and wherever it is I'm not criticizing it, but Americans won't tolerate maltreatment towards children when they know about it. It's a big "no-no" here.
I use a tall stool. I started when he was 3. I put the stool in the middle of the room. He can't touch anything, play with anything, and he's in full view. And he has to start the conversation, respectfully, to get off the stool. Works great for kids who think they can just clam up and not discuss their behavior. At 6 he already knows these words/phrases: personal responsibility, discretion, appropriate, inappropriate, manners, and "Your friend does not invite you back, their parents do"
I see your point now, yes. However, I still think this is a viable method of punishment, but should only be reserved as a last resort.
originally posted by: rukia
a reply to: ScientificRailgun
Well, of course it is. But when you got laughed at it probably wasn't because your parents purposely did something to get you laughed at, right?
It is the intent here that is misplaced and incorrect. I'm all for discipline. But this isn't even an effective punishment. In fact, it's likely to incite even more misbehaving from the child who now feels betrayed by his or her parents.
Did you think of it like that? I understand what you're saying but you're missing my point.
originally posted by: Spider879
originally posted by: longy9999
Bahahaha! While perhaps bordering on slightly cruel it is really funny, perhaps a couple of weeks of taunts at school will help kick some bratty kids into line.
I have two girls so sadly this form of punishment is probably a little too far for them
Denying them phone access works for me.
originally posted by: IShotMyLastMuse
I saw that not too long ago.
Frankly, it's borderline child abuse.
This is public shaming 101.
what ever happened to sitting your kid down and having a conversation?
Now even punishment has to be loud, public, and viral?
does the kid come with a "re-tweet" button on his forehead or something?
originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
Yes I've heard the phrase. It's from the bible which also advocates an eye for an eye.
Any hitting is abuse. You're way bigger and the child has no defense against you unless he can run very fast. What did he learn? That you'll hit him again if he repeats the offense? That's fear not respect. I was raised by an abuser I know fear, not just the beatings but the pinches, kicks under a table, the back hand slap in the mouth, the twisting of an arm while she spoke through her teeth if we were in public. I kept my hands to myself and had to try very very hard and dedicate myself to learning a different way.
But I'm not going to debate the subject all day so let's leave it at that's your choice and I made mine. a reply to: HomerinNC