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originally posted by: stumason
a reply to: DJW001
Nope, just you because you've now tried to paint not one but two separate attacks in France as "against Jews and those protecting Jews" when they were anything but, hence why I suspect you have an agenda.
These weren't "anti-Semitic" attacks, these were Islamic extremists attacking our way of life - all of us, not just Jews.
Let me get this straight... days after an Anti-Semitic gunman used a kosher supermarket as a shooting gallery, you are scoffing at the idea that there is Anti-Semitism in Europe?
The Jews killed in 2012 were not cartoonists
Why are you trying to deny that the attack in the supermarket was intentionally targeted against Jews, because they, too, are perceived to be an enemy of Islam. Considering Jews to be an existential threat is a functional definition of Anti-Semitism.
Incidentally, several of the cartoonists were "ethnically Jewish."
Those soldiers were killed because they were trying to protect Jews. They were not the primary target.
Okay, I was posting from memory without reviewing the facts first. Yes, some of the killings seemed to be anti-French colonial as well as Anti-Semitic
Once again, trying to distort the 2012 attack into something it wasn't while focussing on the Jewish aspect
originally posted by: stumason
a reply to: peter vlar
Fair enough - but it was a point worth making for the sake of your compatriots who seem to think we are born into bubble-wrap and kept that way until death.
originally posted by: stumason
a reply to: DJW001
There was no more an "anti-Semitic slant" than there was against freedom of speech, democratic values and modern civilisation.
It is you trying to lift the anti-Semitism above and beyond - I am just trying to keep it all on the straight and level. You are hyping up this "threat" to the Jews to be something bigger than it is, especially when more Muslims and Christians have been killed in both attacks than Jews.
originally posted by: DJW001
All I am trying to do is point out why the Rabbi's course of action is reasonable. It is not part of some dark Zionist conspiracy, but a logical response to the Anti-Semitism that is a fact of French life. I asked you if you thought it was entirely a coincidence that it was a kosher supermarket that got shot up. Did the gunman really want to shoot up Galleries Lafayette but couldn't find a parking space?
originally posted by: DJW001
The rabbi is representing his community in asking for the EU to make it easier for members of his community to defend themselves.
originally posted by: DJW001
If he was requesting additional police protection, people would be screaming about using their tax dollars.
originally posted by: DJW001
Every group that feels threatened-- Muslims, Blacks, single mothers, gays-- can all reasonably make the same request. I have literally said this from my very first post on this thread.
originally posted by: DJW001
Anti-Semitism is a fact. Ask yourself how you would react to the supermarket shooting if you were a Jew living in Paris?
originally posted by: Shiloh7
a reply to: stumason
So typical of the type of reply by anyone defending jewish action - rudeness
You don't give any proof about what you say so how do we know its true?
originally posted by: WilsonWilson
a reply to: Shiloh7
We suffered terrorist attacks for years from the IRA, wewe are seeing a repeat of the year 2001, where for months the corporate media promoted the idea of Al Qaeda as Uber Villains we were supposed to be afraid of, because they were coming to get us unless we did what the Government told us and got them first. Today the Government is assuring us that Al Qaeda, Bobo Haram, Saudi Arabia, and Muslims in general are in the final stages of a plot to carry out multiple terror attacks on Europe and the United States. Funny how they can know there is a plot, and that it is in its final stages, but don't know what the target is, or who is doing it.
originally posted by: Shiloh7
Yes I did because their posts are usually correct.
originally posted by: Shiloh7
Your humour doesn't come through as actual humour - but each to their own and as yet I haven't touched a drop of the amber liquid as I have to accompany my beloved to the shops.
originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
So carrying guns will prevent gun violence?
Certainly works wonders in the states doesn't it?