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(in the end, it doesn't matter what any of us think. Until you can convince the 1% who $urvive from Oil profits that we need to use a less toxic fuel, nothing will change)
Whack away sport!
originally posted by: lavenlaar
in regards to climate emissions, i've always stated the increase in human population, results in more deforestation, which means more carbon in the atmosphere. More people, need more food equals more livestocks.
originally posted by: mc_squared
I post on ATS to convince the other 99% what the facts are, who’s REALLY lying to them, and how we can not only fix this problem, but empower ourselves as voters, consumers, workers (aka the absolute lifeblood of the economy) to take some of these tools of oligarchy away from that crooked establishment. It starts with us and not with them.
So please, whack away yourself. Don’t know what that kinda smarmy attitude is supposed to accomplish, but hey whatever massages your ego and helps you sleep at night I guess.
originally posted by: network dude
Really? I must have missed where you offered all the solutions in the OP.
The Nasa climate scientists who claimed 2014 set a new record for global warmth last night admitted they were only 38 per cent sure this was true. In a press release on Friday, Nasa’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) claimed its analysis of world temperatures showed ‘2014 was the warmest year on record’. The claim made headlines around the world, but yesterday it emerged that GISS’s analysis – based on readings from more than 3,000 measuring stations worldwide – is subject to a margin of error. Nasa admits this means it is far from certain that 2014 set a record at all. Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk... Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
originally posted by: bbracken677
a reply to: mc_squared
The sky is falling!
More doom porn based on BS.
We are currently in an interglacial period. Do you know what happens during an interglacial period? Warming...until we reach a peak and then global cooling kicks in. Glaciers recede during an interglacial period. This explains exactly why there are no frakking glaciers covering the great lakes.
Man is responsible for globale warming! BS...astronomic cycles are. Called the Malenkovich cycles. These cycles are totally kick butt, to use a scientific term. They rock! They trump co2 levels like hitting a ping pong ball with a freaking NL baseball bat. Co2 levels have been as high as 4800ppm when an ice age kicked in...pretty impressive no? ]
originally posted by: aorAki
a reply to: bbracken677
Much as you seem to be a rabid anti -anthropogenic warming disciple, I am a bit of a moderate, with a foot in both camps.
And yes, the strength of the forcing of the Milankovitch cycles can be computed precisely and compared to the strength of forcing from increased greenhouse gases.
originally posted by: mbkennel
a reply to: mc_squared
But then there's that spike on the extreme right side. Like something new is happening.
Eccentricity is the only Milankovitch cycle that alters the annual-mean global solar insolation (i.e., the total energy the planet receives from the sun at the top of the atmosphere). For the mathematically inclined, the annually-averaged insolation changes in proportion to 1/(1-e2)0.5, so the solar insolation increases with higher eccentricity. This is a very small effect though, amounting to less than 0.2% change in solar insolation, equivalent to a radiative forcing of ~0.45 W/m2 (assuming present-day albedo). This is much less than the total anthropogenic forcing over the 20th century. However, eccentircity does modulate the precessional cycle, as we shall see.