the british have defeated every country in war, al murray

a reply to: JiggyPotamus

Churchill bombed Germany from day 1

FIRST RAF BOMBING OF GERMANY The first of the 4,000 lb bombs dropped on German soil was on the city of Emden on March 31, 1940,

THE BOMBING OF LONDON The first bombs fell on London on August 24, 1940. The Blitz started on September 7 and lasted until May 11, 1941.

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originally posted by: ScepticScot
He is a comedian playing the part of a overtly nationalistic pub landlord. He is not making a serious claim.

Some statements here really show the yanks have no sense of humour at all! Remember, some yanks even think Seinfeld is funny.

I have to disagree, would they really drive those cars and wear those clothes if they had no sense of humour?



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a reply to: muckleduck

I guess there's something to be said for bad teeth, a horse faced monarchy, inbreeding and crossdressing LOL

Cheers - Dave

originally posted by: muckleduck

never paid al murray much attention before hes actually quite good, the guy seems to know history quite well.

He should do, he's got a Masters degree in Modern History from Oxford.

The Pub Landlord is just the act, he comes from a very posh and well-educated background. Just like a lot of British comedians, actually, they seem to be quite heavily represented.

a reply to: alldaylong

I was merely poking fun at the ridiculousness of the statement that because our flag contains the same colors of the British flag that it must mean that the British really won the American War for Independence. I was merely using the French flag as an example of another red white and blue flag of which many exist. The French may have "copied" the British colors but the monarchs of England did speak French for years and some even lived in France. So who influenced who more?

Our country is well aware who lit our torch so to say and our flag colors do reflect this. However this in no way means the British Empire won the War for Independence.

a reply to: muckleduck

Ok... where to even start.

First of all, Mr Al Murray is a COMEDIAN! His comedy is character based, and he often goes on stage as The Pub Landlord, whose drunken logic, and massively slanted understanding of the universe around him is a satirical comment on the state of culture in the UK. He is SUPPOSED to look and sound like a fool, because that is the part he is playing. Al Murray as a person is not at all as he portrays himself during his stage acts. He comes up with gags based on the stereotype he is playing up to, not based on his own personal opinion.

He is actually a very smart, and historically aware gentleman. He is not seriously suggesting that there is no nation on Earth that we have never beaten in war, nor is he actually glorifying our imperial history as a nation, nor any events which led up to it, nor came about as a direct consequence of it later on.

To those in the thread who started bashing Britain without even a moments hesitation...I expected better of most, if not all of you. You are thinking people, and I know that you understand that Britain was just one in a chain of nations, one which happened to be in a position of dominance at a time when transport technology was becoming capable of projecting force much further than ever before. I am sure you are aware, as a consequence of your intelligence and dilligence when contemplating historical matters, that if the same technology had been available to the Spanish when they were the seat of Catholic power, or for that matter to the French during their period of dominion, then it would be THEY that had the largest empire ever to come about on the face of the planet, they who attracted such harsh criticism.

I am by no means defending the behaviour of Imperial Britain toward those it genuinely oppressed, far from it. I regard it as one of the worst periods in our history, despite all the obvious advantages it offered our nation back then. However, what I am saying is that if you are going to bash Britain, do not do it because you have misunderstood charicature for glorification. Al Murray is making fun of the stereotypical British bigot here, not glorifying them!

originally posted by: ScepticScot
He is a comedian playing the part of a overtly nationalistic pub landlord. He is not making a serious claim.

very much this he is playing a character stereotype anyone who takes this seriously needs a slap !

outside of this performance he is actually a very bright guy with a lot of historical knowledge especially WWII

I think everyone has to remember that not everyone knows that Al Murray is an English charecter as truebrit so elegantly points out.

Whilst we find it laughable other nations may not see the humour and actually think we are like this.



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As an Englishman on christmas eve.

Thank you sir, thank you very much indeed.

a reply to: ecossiepossie

originally posted by: mikeone718
England defeating Germany in WW2 is really a matter of personal opinion, things could've gone very different if the Russians didn't annihilate Hitler in the east. Same goes for Italy. That's also not adding in the events of D-Day.

As for your colors, do they also apply to the Russian flag as well as several Balkan nation flags?

Matter of opinion? Really?

Germany lost allies won.

Not sure what room for opinion there is. Uk was on the winning side.

And events of D day,? What of them? Uk put as many men and machines in that day as the USA.
Only reason you dont hear about the British much that daywas we landed exactly were we needed too and bombed the right locations and didnt # up like you yanks at omahah.

Typical of Americans

Britiain and canada secure there beaches quickly and by the plan as well as succefully hold the most important flank from a counter attack all with light losses.
Result= forgotten

America makes a huge mess of the beach they were meant to take, take heavy losses and double the time to securethe beach in the middle

Result= praised as the heros of d day, films made about them and D day being pictured as a American battle rather than a allied.



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