the british have defeated every country in war, al murray

not sure where this thread fits really if it needs moved feel free to do so.

never paid al murray much attention before hes actually quite good, the guy seems to know history quite well.

listen closesly to the bit when someone brings up america

still think america won the war of independance?

why u think u fly OUR colours of the union.

basically the audience shout out a country and he responds with how the british defeated them in war at some point.

with histroical facts.

England defeating Germany in WW2 is really a matter of personal opinion, things could've gone very different if the Russians didn't annihilate Hitler in the east. Same goes for Italy. That's also not adding in the events of D-Day.

As for your colors, do they also apply to the Russian flag as well as several Balkan nation flags?

I only got two minutes in.

He's an idiot.

originally posted by: DrJunk
I only got two minutes in.

He's an idiot.

Ditto.

a reply to: muckleduck

The British have a very impressive history to subjugating anyone and everyone to their whim through war across the entire world. They have done it for hundreds and hundreds of years now! It's a very proud history in England. Oddly much of the rest of the world finds this history shameful and not something to be celebrated.

The achievements you celebrate speak more about you than your words.

a reply to: muckleduck

I think your statement here about Britain winning every war she has fought needs to simmer down some.

Harold lost at Hastings and William The Conqueror prevailed. The American War of Independence was certainly won by what became the U.S.A. Britain did not win.

Also, Britain was part of the allied attack on the western front and Russia on the eastern front. Together they were victorious against the Nazis.

Britain lost the colonies in a similar fashion on many occasions to what happened in America; India for instance.

That being said Britain has got an amazing record of victory in conflict. For a small Island it is an impressive history.

No comment on the morality of it all. Just sticking to the facts. Rule Britannia!!!

Guess he forgot about afghanistan where they got tossed out just like every other invader throughout history ..

He is a comedian playing the part of a overtly nationalistic pub landlord. He is not making a serious claim.

Al Murray is a British stand up comedian, by the way... We call him 'The Pub Landlord".

Great guy, passionate about his country.

a reply to: muckleduck

"Brits" may have occupied portions of Afghanistan (three times) but they never subjugated it.

"When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's Plains,

And the women come out to hack up your remains,

Just roll to your rifle and blow out your brains,

And go to your Gawd like a soldier." --Rudyard Kipling

British Inavsions of Afghanistan, Wiki


ETA: I see ex pat beat me to it.

To others: Yah, the guys a comedian. This is meant to be a joke… So is the term "Great" Britain. And the "Empire" state building.

Have we defeated Afghanistan yet?, Britains been at that for over 200 years with not much luck.

In recent times I can think of Yemen, Britian was forced out of there, Egypt too, Palestine. India, we lost that. To be honest there as many defeats as there is victories.

originally posted by: ScepticScot
He is a comedian playing the part of a overtly nationalistic pub landlord. He is not making a serious claim.

He's no Stephen Colbert.

Ha ha, he's a comedian who developed this character called 'The pub Landlord'.

It's an exaggerated character based on little Englanders and everything he says is said with tongue firmly in cheek.

You may think the character is an idiot, but believe me Al Murray is far from being an idiot.

a reply to: DrJunk

And deffinatly not a racist, he is a "nationalist" wink wink.

the bit he states about the 1812 war is entirely true lol

not every war, but every country we have been at war with we have defeated at some point.

i only posted it to see what others would think about it.

debunk any of what he says in the video, just because he is a comedian doesnt mean he isnt right.

and the recennt war in afghanistan , the british mission is only to win the hearts and minds that american soldiers blow out onto the streets of civilians

oh and the opium.




its a war on "terror", not the country itself.

if we really wish to defeat terror then our governments should turn the guns on themselves.

a reply to: noeltrotsky

Not so fast. It is all relative.

In India Britain is still most respected for the infrastructure she brought. The Indian people have developed that infrastructure. You see that in many places in India.

The 53 Commonwealth countries:

"Country, Date, Status
Antigua and Barbuda 1981 Realm
Australia 1931 Realm
The Bahamas 1973 Realm
Bangladesh 1972 Republic
Barbados 1966 Realm
Belize 1981 Realm
Botswana 1966 Republic
Brunei 1984 Monarchy
Cameroon 1995 Republic
Canada 1931 Realm
Cyprus 1961 Republic
Dominica 1978 Republic
Fiji 1970 (rejoined in 1997 after 10 year lapse) Republic

Ghana 1957 Republic
Grenada 1974 Realm
Guyana 1966 Republic
India 1947 Republic
Jamaica 1962 Realm
Kenya 1963 Republic
Kiribati 1979 Republic
Lesotho 1966 Monarchy
Malawi 1964 Republic
Malaysia 1957 Monarchy
The Maldives 1982 Republic
Malta 1964 Republic
Mauritius 1968 Republic
Mozambique 1995 Republic
Namibia 1990 Republic
Nauru 1968 Republic
New Zealand 1931 Realm
Nigeria 1960 Republic
Pakistan 1947 Republic
Papua New Guinea 1975 Realm
Rwanda 2009 Republic
St. Christopher and Nevis 1983 Realm
St. Lucia 1979 Realm
St. Vincent and the Grenadines 1979 Realm
Samoa 1970 Republic
Seychelles 1976 Republic
Sierra Leone 1961 Republic
Singapore 1965 Republic
Solomon Islands 1978 Realm
South Africa 1931
(withdrew in 1961,
rejoined in 1994) Republic
Sri Lanka 1948 Republic
Swaziland 1968 Monarchy
Tanzania 1961 Republic
Tonga 1970 Monarchy
Trinidad and Tobago 1962 Republic
Tuvalu 1978 Realm
United Kingdom Realm
Uganda 1962 Republic
Vanuatu 1980 Republic
Zambia 1964 Republic

The largest member of the Commonwealth is Canada, at nearly 10 million square kilometres.

The most populous Commonwealth country is India, with nearly 1.1 billion people.

The smallest member is Nauru, with only 13,000 inhabitants.

The Commonwealth also includes the world's driest and most sparsely populated country: Namibia."

source; royal.gov.uk

Like I said, very impressive for a small Island. Membership of the Commonwealth is entirely voluntary. All these states like the idea. Strange, huh!

There are many benefits in terms of trade and state partnership. I am actually quite proud of this.

originally posted by: lonesomerimbaud
a reply to: noeltrotsky

Not so fast. It is all relative.

In India Britain is still most respected for the infrastructure she brought. The Indian people have developed that infrastructure. You see that in many places in India.

The Commonwealth countries;

Country Date Status
Antigua and Barbuda 1981 Realm
Australia 1931 Realm
The Bahamas 1973 Realm
Bangladesh 1972 Republic
Barbados 1966 Realm
Belize 1981 Realm
Botswana 1966 Republic
Brunei 1984 Monarchy
Cameroon 1995 Republic
Canada 1931 Realm
Cyprus 1961 Republic
Dominica 1978 Republic
Fiji 1970 (rejoined in 1997 after 10 year lapse) Republic

Ghana 1957 Republic
Grenada 1974 Realm
Guyana 1966 Republic
India 1947 Republic
Jamaica 1962 Realm
Kenya 1963 Republic
Kiribati 1979 Republic
Lesotho 1966 Monarchy
Malawi 1964 Republic
Malaysia 1957 Monarchy
The Maldives 1982 Republic
Malta 1964 Republic
Mauritius 1968 Republic
Mozambique 1995 Republic
Namibia 1990 Republic
Nauru 1968 Republic
New Zealand 1931 Realm
Nigeria 1960 Republic
Pakistan 1947 Republic
Papua New Guinea 1975 Realm
Rwanda 2009 Republic
St. Christopher and Nevis 1983 Realm
St. Lucia 1979 Realm
St. Vincent and the Grenadines 1979 Realm
Samoa 1970 Republic
Seychelles 1976 Republic
Sierra Leone 1961 Republic
Singapore 1965 Republic
Solomon Islands 1978 Realm
South Africa 1931
(withdrew in 1961,
rejoined in 1994) Republic
Sri Lanka 1948 Republic
Swaziland 1968 Monarchy
Tanzania 1961 Republic
Tonga 1970 Monarchy
Trinidad and Tobago 1962 Republic
Tuvalu 1978 Realm
United Kingdom Realm
Uganda 1962 Republic
Vanuatu 1980 Republic
Zambia 1964 Republic

The largest member of the Commonwealth is Canada, at nearly 10 million square kilometres.

The most populous Commonwealth country is India, with nearly 1.1 billion people.

The smallest member is Nauru, with only 13,000 inhabitants.

The Commonwealth also includes the world's driest and most sparsely populated country: Namibia.

Like I said, very impressive for a small Island. Membership of the Commonwealth is entirely voluntary. All these states like the idea. Strange, huh!

There are many benefits in terms of trade and state partnership. I am actually quite proud of this.

yes, me too why do u think canad fought american "liberators" so hard after 1812 lol

the americans believed all they would have to do is march thru canda and they would be greeted as heroes.

far from it.

i dont see many canadians flockin en masse to the usa, probably because we have more freedom.

a reply to: lonesomerimbaud

Yeah its pretty messed up, guess once Britain sussd out how to build the best ships they just sneak attacked pretty much the entire planet.

Commonwealth of Nations

With an estimated population of 2.328 billion, near a third of the world population, the Commonwealth in 2014 produced a nominal gross domestic product (GDP) of $10.450 trillion, representing 17% of the world GDP when measured in purchasing power parity (PPP) and 14% of the Gross world product when measured nominally.

originally posted by: muckleduck
yes, me too why do u think canad fought american "liberators" so hard after 1812 lol

the americans believed all they would have to do is march thru canda and they would be greeted as heroes.

far from it.

i dont see many canadians flockin en masse to the usa, probably because we have more freedom.

I don't see many Americans flocking to Canada en masse either. Canada still has its war on drugs. So it is just as restrictive freedomwise as America is. And with Holder in office, that won't change anytime soon.