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originally posted by: Ignatian
Wow, where did that come from? lol. Serious, I'd be curious what your source would be? I'm new here, and don't recognize many names, so i'm not familiar with your bend. I mean no disrespect of your belief, but alot of your stuff is new to me.
It is said that he was never seen to laugh, but he was seen to weep.
Οινον και σικερα ουκ επιεν, ουδε εμψυχον εφαγε ξυρον επι την κεφαλην αυτου· ουκ ανεβη ελαιον ουκ ηλειψατο, και βαλανειω ουκ εχρησατο.
He drank no wine nor strong drink, nor did he eat flesh. No razor came upon his head; he did not anoint himself with oil
CHAP. XIV.--THE TENETS OF THE ESSENI.
And they do not use oil, regarding it as a defilement to be anointed.
A miracle would never occur if that person was not in heaven. It's scriptural, and also logical.
You are deifying Christ just as he Romans ended up doing. Not surprisingly, you are opposing the teachings of Christ. Usually people oppose the teachings of Christ out of selfishness, but you are doing it out of ignorance.
I am not trying to be mean or disrespectful, or break the rules, but you are not the smartest one are you?
Now it is not your fault that the pitiful scholar frauds are lying to you, I know that.
That is what Paul taught you, but Paul killed James the brother of Jesus,
According to Josephus, Ananus became the high priest of Jerusalem after the procurator, Porcius Festus, died. While the new procurator, Albinus, was on the way, Ananus saw the opportunity to get rid of James.
Josephus does not say why Ananus wanted the death of James other than that he "was of an exceeding bold and reckless disposition."
Josephus makes it very simple. Ananus gathered the Sanhedrin, accused James of violating the Law along with some others and had them all stoned. As a consequence, Albinus removed Ananus from his position of high priest upon his arrival.
Christ is not a deity, that is Christ is not a god that you just believe in and pray to and all of a sudden everything is right
That was Paul in 2 Corinthians quoting from an extra-biblical writing on the story of Adam and Eve.
That's scriptural as well, he masquerades as an angel of light,
The "man of sin" is in 2 Thessalonians, not Revelation.
and in Revelation he will convince the world to follow the man of sin by counterfeit miracles.
Paul wasn't trying to say that this is what is happening.
The "man of sin" is in 2 Thessalonians, not Revelation.
originally posted by: ServantOfTheLamb
a reply to: greyer
Are you sure?
Herod Antipas, Roman-appointed self-styled "King of the Jews' [Herod Antipas (son of Herod the Great) had jurisdiction over Gallilee, but nevertheless belonged to the Herodian dynasty, and like his father and brothers, continually held ambitions for regaining status of "King" over Judea (eventually his nephew Herod Agrippa I would regain that title
According to Josephus, Ananus became the high priest of Jerusalem after the procurator, Porcius Festus, died. While the new procurator, Albinus, was on the way, Ananus saw the opportunity to get rid of James.
Josephus does not say why Ananus wanted the death of James other than that he "was of an exceeding bold and reckless disposition."
Josephus makes it very simple. Ananus gathered the Sanhedrin, accused James of violating the Law along with some others and had them all stoned. As a consequence, Albinus removed Ananus from his position of high priest upon his arrival.
Now who is the one showing ignorance?
we ask why the early Christians would have changed the chronology of Jesus by about 35 years. The obvious motivation here would have been to avoid the wrath of the Flavian Emperors. No one wanted to look Vespasian in the face and tell him that he killed the "Son of God". Better to blame Pontius Pilate and Tiberius. The chronology change also made it possible to depict "Jesus" as a misunderstood pacifist who sought a "kingdom" only in heaven. Better this than to admit that he was a failed messiah who led his followers into colossal tragedy.
P.S.
As for the son of man, you might understand the reason he called himself that if you look at daniel 7
That is just a story and nowhere close to being an actual historical event.
I disagree, Muhammad met him just as described, masquerading as an angel of light in a cave, and that was the birth of Islam.
The "same man" as who?
Same man, two different people talking about him. One Paul, and one John.
The "same man" as who? It mentions a man in 2 Thessalonians, where does it mention a man in Revelation?
OK, which one is a man in Revelation?
There are 33 titles the Bible uses for the antichrist.
You are talking about a theory that predicts the future.
Don't pretend this is the first day you have ever studied Biblical prophecy.
That is just a story and nowhere close to being an actual historical event.
None of those are a literal man.
"rider on the white horse"
"the beast"
"the vine of the Earth"
All titles for the antichrist/man of sin/son of perdition
What reason do you have to believe that anything like that did happen?
I have no reason to believe an "angel of light" didn't meet him in a cave, . . .
originally posted by: jmdewey60
a reply to: NOTurTypicalWhat reason do you have to believe that anything like that did happen?
I have no reason to believe an "angel of light" didn't meet him in a cave, . . .
originally posted by: jmdewey60
a reply to: NOTurTypicalNone of those are a literal man.
"rider on the white horse"
"the beast"
"the vine of the Earth"
All titles for the antichrist/man of sin/son of perdition
They are titles of things understood metaphorically.
Yeah, that's why I said they were "titles" the Bible uses for the antichrist, nobody knows his proper name yet.