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originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: Gryphon66
I wonder how much the Constitution says that I have to give in charity.... According to your wishes?
What in the world are you even talking about now?
originally posted by: searcus1
a reply to: Gryphon66
The number is actually somewhere around 1.5 to 2 million previously uninsured people.
As the law's initial enrollment period closes, at least 9.5 million previously uninsured people have gained coverage.
About 7.1 million people have health plans through the marketplaces today, according to the federal agency.
originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: Gryphon66
What in the world are you even talking about now?
Pretty simple really.
You made a reference to the families and children... or something like that.
Our government is mired in a huge debt. Who are they to tell me to pay for health care of others in what amounts to a charitable contribution?
What business of theirs to tell me that I have to have health care insurance?
You are correct... the Constitution does not allow for forced charity... yet we have it.
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: xuenchen
LIke you, I'm excited to see 26 million or so Americans get their insurance taken away by the Republicans.
Though, admittedly, probably for different reasons.
“This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure [the Congressional Budget Office] did not score the mandate as taxes,” Gruber said in one 52-second clip. “If CBO scored the mandate as taxes, the bill dies. OK, so it’s written to do that. In terms of risk-rated subsidies, if you had a law which said that healthy people are going to pay in – you made explicit healthy people pay in and sick people get money, it would not have passed.” Gruber then trumpeted the value of a “lack of transparency” — and
originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
a reply to: Gryphon66
Actually, the architect of the bill says so.
2nd line
originally posted by: Gryphon66
1. The Constitution does not say you have to give a dime in charity.
2. What would my wishes have to do with your charitable gifts?
3. You do have to obey the laws of the land as we all do, and no, being a law-abiding citizen is not being "a statist."
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Daedalus
Hey Daedalus, life's good, and yours?
IN order of your responses,
1. Well good, we agree.
2. What does the concept of "gift" have to do with the insurance we're talking about?
3. "Bad" "obviously" and "unamerican" are opinions. They may be yours but not everyone shares them. You know as well as I do that the term "statist" gets tossed around here conveniently to try to damn one side of an argument without offering any proof or making a counter argument.