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So, erratic driving equates to those inside being murderers, and psycopaths, which usually requires a cop to pull a weapon. Gotcha.
Natividad was a passenger in a car when a deputy tried to stop the vehicle after noticing the driver was disoriented and unresponsive. Authorities say Natividad’s friend drove off but quickly stopped.
Both men got out of the car and were ordered to the ground at gunpoint.
The deputy says he smelled marijuana, and the driver, seen on the sidewalk in the footage, was arrested for driving while impaired by drugs.
originally posted by: Pilgrum
The moral of this story, like many other examples, is co-operate and comply with reasonable requests. What amounts to a reasonable request is dependant on the situation the LEOs find themselves in and they'll be very edgy until they're certain there's no threat to themselves or others in the area.
originally posted by: matafuchs
He was a passenger in a car. The car stopped because the driver had an episode/seizure. Police approached and the driver took off. They were then ordered out of the vehicle. Sorry, but that is more than enough reason to be weary and pull on someone. He was in no danger expect to not complying to a simple request. Don't advertise this like he was walking down the street and they came up on him for no reason.
Just want to make sure facts are correct and not standing up for overzealous cops in all situations...
originally posted by: SlapMonkey
No...just, no. Navidad (the kid talking and taking the video) did not stand up to a damn thing. His dumb ass, high as hell, apparently, decided the most intelligent thing to do was to get out of his vehicle during a traffic stop.
Deputies said the men got out of the car, which escalated the situation and that's when officers pulled out their weapons. A second deputy appeared and handcuffed the men. They arrested Jean-Baptiste for driving under the influence of marijuana.
Shouse said the heated situation could've been avoided if both men would've remained in the car.
Now, anyone with half a damn brain cell knows that getting out of your vehicle during a traffic stop when not directed to by the LEO is asking to be treated like an agressor. LEOs have zero way of knowing your intent, and there are myriad videos online you can find that show people calmly exiting a vehicle immediately before attacking--sometimes killing--the LEO.
This particular LEO did what he was trained to do for his own protection. He wasn't acting beligerently or overly aggressive--he was protecting his own safety. "Young man stands up to police in video stand-off"...no, he was high as sh*t and doing everything incorrectly during a traffic stop. Had he stayed in the car, he wouldn't look like a weeping dumb*ss online in a situation that he escalated through poor decisions.
Look, give credit where credit is due, but there is no credit due here--just a kid acting ignorantly during a traffic stop. "I know my rights," he yells. Sure, you have a right to jump out of the car a scream at the cop that he's a coward, but you also have a right to reap the rewards of that stupid decision.
originally posted by: SubTruth
The cops had no reason to draw lethal weapons. They should only be drawn if they are going to be used........Period. If the police feel a deadly threat.........Ya they should draw a deadly weapon..........If a deadly threat is not the case.......NO they should keep them holstered.
What if...........What if a car backfired.......What if this man sneezed........What if the cops finger slipped........I can go on forever but the fact remains the police did not need to use deadly force. And because they did not need to use deadly force the weapons should have remained holstered.
originally posted by: NthOther
If we have to be reasonable, why don't they? Pulling a gun on someone who is engaged in non-violent resistance is not reasonable.