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I don't understand why Russia doesn't just nuke Kiev.
originally posted by: Adaluncatif
I don't understand why Russia doesn't just nuke Kiev. Ukraine is not a member of NATO, so there will be no World War III after the attack.
originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: BornAgainAlien
So the cease fire the rebels signed was nothing more than to secure a breather so they can rearm / re-equip and continue their fight against Ukraine.
gee... I called that one when it started.
originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
Nice way of denying ATO was collapsing, it saved Kiev`s army not the Separatists ones.
Separatist leaders have rejected the cease-fire and said they will not disarm. In Donetsk, a group of armed men gathered in the central square to take a military oath to the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic.
Pavel Gubarev, who describes himself as the governor of the Donetsk People's Republic, claimed there was no cease-fire near Slovyansk, scene of serious clashes over the past several months.
"There is no cease-fire over there," Gubarev said. "There is shooting all the time, and this cease-fire that Poroshenko is talking about is just fake. The Ukrainian forces are either not under his control, or he is just a liar."
originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: Xcathdra
I`m not a person with whom you can have a debate when you just make stuff up, sorry mate.
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You`re just making whole stories up by ignoring facts to suit your agenda.
Poroshenko himself...?
Petr Poroshenko announced that during the special operation on the east of the country the Ukrainian materiel was destroyed to the level of 65%. "I can say how much materiel we lost... Military vehicles were destroyed to 60-65%," – said the president during his interview for the Ukrainian TV channels on Sunday evening.
The scale of the devastation suffered by Ukrainian forces in southeastern Ukraine over the last week has to be seen to be believed. It amounts to a catastrophic defeat and will long be remembered by embittered Ukrainians as among the darkest days of their history.
originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
An army that loses that much of their total vehicles is collapsing, that`s way beyond what units can bare to lose for their support.
originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
And of course Western media got deaf silence about it, but that`s no news.
originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
But here`s some more :
Ukraine: A Catastrophic Defeat
The scale of the devastation suffered by Ukrainian forces in southeastern Ukraine over the last week has to be seen to be believed. It amounts to a catastrophic defeat and will long be remembered by embittered Ukrainians as among the darkest days of their history.
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Then, in the last two weeks of August, everything changed again. The Ukrainians said that regular Russian troops were crossing the border, a contention supported by western intelligence reports. More and more stories are being written in the Russian press too about soldiers killed in action in Ukraine, though the Russian government flatly denies that any regular soldiers—as opposed to volunteers who have come on their own—have crossed the frontier. However not only is there mounting evidence of the presence of regular Russian soldiers but the fact that the military situation has changed so rapidly also suggests the rebels have acquired new strength. Today, Donetsk is a much safer city than it was a few weeks ago. The reason for that is that Ukrainian forces have been pushed back though the two sides still trade artillery and Grad rocket fire every day.
Again the blame lies with Russia.
In 3 days Russian troops changed the whole course of battle at Iloviask by blowing 100s of military vehicles and killing several hundreds.
About time some Ukies Army strong man walks upto Rada and throws out all the Porky and associates and declares good terms with Russia and finally ends all the suffering of the people. NovoRossiya will still be formed but left over parts might benefit from good terms with Russia. Porky needs to be kicked out asap.
No its not, US made a coup and got their CIA puppet in power who took the war to the next level.
And as has been proven by former US ambassador to Russia, William J. Burns memo, Russia didn`t want trouble in Ukraine, but those three facts about the whole situation you can`t seem to remember...I already told you leave out important facts to make a whole different story about what`s happening.
And as I asked you before, what`s the reason why you have to push an anti-Putin agenda so badly you`re blatantly ignoring facts and making stuff up to make him deliberately look bad.