Q: Has anyone actually seen an alleged uncensored ISIS beheading video?

originally posted by: Lostinthedarkness
a reply to: NoRulesAllowed

I have seen real beheadings on video . Its sick , those sights got filed away with all the other sick stuff from real life I have seen. Just a few more demons no biggie. I grew up on a ranch it dont take sawing with a knife to get to blood . Any one who has bled out pig cow goat knows those videos are theatrics ! I did a search to find a unedited version I dont think there is one.

My problem with these beheading videos is the style is different from their other videos even their early beheading videos . The older ones relished in displaying the gore the pain agony and pure brutality of it with close ups. This is way to sanitized .

Are they now worried about our feelings ? Or worried the shock of the gore will disturbs us ?

I believe it is designed for mass consumption to pull our heart strings. They want us mad over it.

Is it to sway the public to back a war? or I it to make use push to leave Isis alone? I think its purpose is to get us behind a war effort.

This jihadi john looks and acts like the american at the end of the flames of war www...(dot)youtube.com/watch?v=fC9OLE-zHyE a clip from the end with a guy they say is american get a screen shot of his eyes compare to jihadi john kinda similar as is both have under arm holster have a trained stance and act like a true service man not a undisciplined recruit .

There was a movie clip I saw it I showed a scene just like this jihadist in black about to behead someone in orange . Will paste like here when I find it.

WHAT? WAIT. that is the SAME (or extremely similar) look to the latest beheading. I thought it WAS That video but NO? it's from a MOVIE? ?????

mind blown........

a reply to: Lostinthedarkness

It's so we would stand down on the next scheme to get into Syria. Sure we aren't hitting Syrian soldiers and Assad's compounds yet, but our foots in the door and that's all you need. Americans only have one good fight in them, if it can't be stopped from the start, we chock it up as a loss, forget, and keep our eyes peeled for the next obstacle.

With something as horrible as the media portray the edited videos anyone speaking out against going to Syria is going to be shouted down by the people (who probably haven't watched the edited vids).

originally posted by: weirdguy
Why the # would anyone watch murder videos? I'm all for freedom of speech or whatever but I also believe that such things can be taken to far. Just like child porn, this is a classic example of why the internet needs to be censored.

If any of you think it is cool or kid yourselves into thinking "it's just personal research", then you need serious #ing therapy. People are being MURDERED in cold blood, it is not entertainment you stupid people!

If we are going to advance to the next level of civilization, then widespread international laws need to be implemented to stop Troglodytes from viewing murders online.

But then maybe I'm just old fashioned, just sayin'

Freedom of speech cannot be taken too far.

originally posted by: grandmakdw
I haven't watched one, I refuse to.

However, right now, this very minute

a close friend

of a friend

is now being held by the Islamic State of Daesh for beheading.


So, if you are wondering if it is all real. It is.

See, it seems they rely on that. People expect they are horrible and gory because of past beheading videos. These videos don't actually show beheadings. They show a guy with a knife and a guy on his knees, the the guy with the knife puts it to the detainees throat then it cuts before even a drop of blood is shown. Then after that it cuts to a still photo of the beheaded body. Many of us think it's strange that this brutal group would edit the gore from their videos. You don't actually see anyone killed on film. It's good in a sense that no one wants to see that, but it's strange in ways too.

a reply to: AlphaHawk and? no law against it. Everybody finds everything interesting, I reckon..

Drone on!

a reply to: Lostinthedarkness

When was that show released? The guy in the video is a Brit. I wonder if he saw that show and set the scene in a similar manner? Could be life imitating art or the opposite depending on when the show was made.

a reply to: sn0rch

get the target audience watching

Target audience? My gawd that's classic!

We'll be back after a word from our sponser!

I can post anything 10x more gory from The Walking Dead
on this site. But these faked, laughable, beheadings?
That just don't match anything gory by comparison?
('d be looking for a new forum and I know there isn't
one better. So I comply and even agree that they have
that right. But it's so one sided to not be allowed to
use the evidence on hand. None of it bothers me because
cinema, sends these amatuers, hitch hiking the wrong way
down a one lane one way street.
They're a joke!

a reply to: sarra1833

FYI, there is an entire thread discussing the movie that this extremely eerie beheading video is excerpted from. The movie was released before this series of ISIS beheadings began.
cwm

I watched a beheading video a while back only because I was curious. It made me sick to my stomach and gave me nightmares. Never again.

Then I saw the hype about James Foley. So I decided to man up and have a look. You do not see the beheading. In fact you don not see any blood until the end where the camera pans from the feet on the right travelling left then the severed head on the body then a quick shot of the neck and some blood. That's it. But every video since has been the same MO.

All the videos are shot in exactly the same way. Only the guy on his knees changes and the speeches. But every thing is exactly the same.

This picture says it all:



And this scenario mirrors the same one in a Turkish Thriller released long before this batch of beheadings appeared.

Is this staged? Looks like it. Who staged it? Well in all of the videos the makers name / logo appears as "SITE". Apparently they are a CIA/Mossad video maker/editing company. Tried to have a quick look but couldn't find the company.

Like the picture says they need to get the public horrified enough to accept their pot shots in Syria and Iraq.

ISIS is the excuse to attack Syria. The horrifying beheadings are there to get the public on their side justifying their attacks on the Syrian people.

I guess their frame up Chemical Weapons Attack last time didn't work. Not enough Shock Tactics!

originally posted by: TheCrowMan

originally posted by: weirdguy
Why the # would anyone watch murder videos? I'm all for freedom of speech or whatever but I also believe that such things can be taken to far. Just like child porn, this is a classic example of why the internet needs to be censored.

If any of you think it is cool or kid yourselves into thinking "it's just personal research", then you need serious #ing therapy. People are being MURDERED in cold blood, it is not entertainment you stupid people!

If we are going to advance to the next level of civilization, then widespread international laws need to be implemented to stop Troglodytes from viewing murders online.

But then maybe I'm just old fashioned, just sayin'

Holdback on calling people stupid pal, what is wrong with seeing a murder? Do they not happen, do I not have a choice in what I want to see?

And don't compare it to child pornography, that is completely different where the publication and proliferation through the internet increases the crime of child abuse not to mention that getting off on watching a child is an incur able mental illness which the threat of jail does not cure. So yes, these sites should be closed down and the makers found, going after the watchers without a cure is not a winning strategy.

As far as watching a murder or aftermath of a drone strike or a car crash, it doesn't make me want to go and do it, in many cases it is the opposite, slow down, protest against land mines etc.

You are old fashioned in your thoughts in my opinion but you are allowed yours and do not watch this stuff. I on the other hand want to desensitize myself to things that are happening, watching it doesn't excite me nor promote feelings of wanting to commit murder or crime.

Perhaps if they did show photos of car accidents people would slow down.

It also gives you an insight into how little life means in some parts of the world, that's right, it opens your mind to what is really going on, you just bury your head in the sand and think somehow we will rise to a better plane of consciousness by doing nothing different.

And the fact that you try to justify watching someone being murdered means you are a sick #er. just sayin

I on the other hand want to desensitize myself to things that are happening

Yep, you need serious therapy buddy ol'chum. If you saw a car accident would you assist or would you film it for points on a gore site? hmm
What exactly are you trying to "desensitize" yourself to beheadings and mayhem for? Incase your zombie plague wet dream comes true?

What you and other bottom feeders need to understand is that these gore sites are exploiting peoples murders for profit. And people like yourself are contributing to this exploitation at the receiving end. A quick google search will show that in fact I am correct and sites like these will be banned soon enough.

a reply to: GogoVicMorrow

When was that show released?

From what I understand it was filmed for showing early this year so it would have been produced last fall at latest (if their shows tapes 6 months before release like most do)

originally posted by: Tedgoat
I watched a beheading video a while back only because I was curious. It made me sick to my stomach and gave me nightmares. Never again.

Then I saw the hype about James Foley. So I decided to man up and have a look. You do not see the beheading. In fact you don not see any blood until the end where the camera pans from the feet on the right travelling left then the severed head on the body then a quick shot of the neck and some blood. That's it. But every video since has been the same MO.

Yes... and very little blood. Am I wrong to expect a beheading to have a lot more blood? And everywhere??

Is this staged? Looks like it. Who staged it? Well in all of the videos the makers name / logo appears as "SITE". Apparently they are a CIA/Mossad video maker/editing company. Tried to have a quick look but couldn't find the company.

Could you explain what you mean by SITE appearing on the video??

originally posted by: thesmokingman

originally posted by: MarlinGrace

originally posted by: EA006
a reply to: thesmokingman

Agreed. I've heard the response "somebody should wipe them out" multiple times when it's mentioned on the news.
I'll also pitch that the reason this is the widely touted view is because the majority of those spouting this BS get their news from MSM and don't research the truth.
If you can't be arsed looking, don't complain when someone #s on your doorstep.

I can tell you I found several videos on the net of ISIS driving down the FRWY shooting people as they pulled up next to them. When they missed and the people pulled off the road they tracked them down and executed them on the spot. They shot hundreds in the head into ditches, and ponds. Seen those as well. These people are ruthless. Haven't seen any of their beheadings but the videos I have seen, they need to be wiped out. There is no trial, no conversation, no ID check just shoot, kill, and move on. If they come to my doorstep at least we can shoot back. I will just send them next door to the liberal democrats, they don't like guns. They can open the door and start negotiating/pleading.

Do you know how many rebel groups there are out there? Look, I am not saying ISIS is not a rebel group, but they ARE Saudi/Israeli/US funded and trained in most cases. Again, not saying that there are not bad folks out there, lets just say ISIS is not the threat the US is trying to lead the world to believe that they are.

So the 911 folks would like us to think the Saudi's funded and perpetrated 911 against the US, and they fund Hamas with Iran against Israel.

Now you say the three are working together to fund and train ISIS? The Saudi's the money, The US the weapons, and what the Israelis the Ladka's? To what end to sell more weapons? To boost sales for the industrial complex? If thats the case why isn't everyone protesting in the streets, trying to start another revolution in this country to stop this insanity? Doesn't it seem counter productive to anyone to create and feed a monster only to have it eat you? How would you control tens of thousands in ISIS?

I have a hard time believing this. I know we supply weapons covertly to factions within countries to aid in revolutions, I think Benghazi is an example of this. But to train and fund ISIS would take serious manpower, shipping, production at this point and you couldn't keep it secret. There are no secrets in Washington to many people would have to be involved it would be out in a minute. I wear a pretty tight tinhat as many do but this even seems far fetched for this old man.

You would even have to assume left wing protesters were controlled by the military complex they appear to be omni absent as of late. Don't you find it curious that during the Bush administration protesting anything war was always at the for front and when Obama's administration does things and he sounds the same mums the word? Is it really about selling weapons or ideology change in America. I don't know but selling weapons just doesn't make sense yet to me.

I invite everyone to watch this vid on how easy it is to create a hoax beheading, one good enough to fool google. Link

a reply to: MarlinGrace

Why would it be any harder than supplying and training Syrian rebels? ISIS isn't that vast, probably A LOT less than their are other "rebels."

Actually, considering many of them split from fighting with Syrian rebels many were probably trained and supplied by the west and western friendly mideastern countries.

originally posted by: GogoVicMorrow
a reply to: MarlinGrace

Why would it be any harder than supplying and training Syrian rebels? ISIS isn't that vast, probably A LOT less than their are other "rebels."

Actually, considering many of them split from fighting with Syrian rebels many were probably trained and supplied by the west and western friendly mideastern countries.

It is my understanding they have 30,000 fighters and there is the thought they could join with Hamas to amount to 60,000.
Training 30K is a lot of people and requires serious manpower and equipment. The problem is unless you or I are on the ground there , there is no way to verify.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: sarra1833

FYI, there is an entire thread discussing the movie that this extremely eerie beheading video is excerpted from. The movie was released before this series of ISIS beheadings began.
cwm

Wrong.

You THINK it was released *before* because you READ it somewhere, "some dude on a forum said it".

Truth is, it was a trailer for an upcoming episode of this show and this episode was produced right at this time with the beheadings going on in the real world. The show incorporates current events in their plot.

Basically James Foley was killed about Aug. 20 thats the date the news flurry began.

www.rahatsiz.com.tr...

is published Sept. 12 this has a clip with a beheading scene like the jihadie johnnie killings

The Valley of the Wolves new season starts on Sept 18 with the teaser clip.

22 days to take last seasons cliff hangers and write the Foley beheading act into the new season film it and get a clip into this season teaser trailer clip out . That is good team work to accomplish it .

22 days to
decide to do it
write a script
fit new script it into current script
cast actors if not using same actors
decide who dies
get location
get actors camera sound makeup and lighting crews to location
shoot the scene
find clips from shoot to add to existing trailer
decide what to remove from original script.
could it be done in time allowed ?

Not our tv series but maybe theirs.


That is very quick to go from news to filmed. If it was our media the shows in a season are completed 3-6 months in advance of start date of new season. I wonder what the lead time is in Turkey for tv shows. Ours would still be arguing about the political correctness of using it in a show and who would star as jihadie johnnie.

Thank you you have given me hope that humane people do still exist. I find ISIS frightening but I also find some of the people on this thread equally frightening. Why would any person with an ounce of feeling want to watch a video like this let alone know where to find such things on the dark web. These people who have been terrorised have families and people who love them. I cant even look at a still photo of the victims because it plays on my mind too much as I think how terrified they must have been and I cant bear it. Surely thats a normal reaction if not god help us!a reply to: weirdguy

Years ago I saw an uncensored 20 minute montage of beheadings online, I made it five minutes in before having to turn it off.

No, I don't doubt these things are happening, I don't need, nor do I want to see the uncensored footage.

It's horrific, slow, painful, and I don't think I could watch another one.

I'm absolutely sure it's online, probably multiple places,