Q: Has anyone actually seen an alleged uncensored ISIS beheading video?

a reply to: mr-lizard

Yeah, mine too.

Although another member has brought up the fact that in the latest video the recent airstrikes were mentioned, so I'm not so sure.

a reply to: Staroth

Well according to Agit8dChop you're a liar....or mistaken.

Take your pick, they're the only options he's allowing.

a reply to: NoRulesAllowed

I have seen real beheadings on video . Its sick , those sights got filed away with all the other sick stuff from real life I have seen. Just a few more demons no biggie. I grew up on a ranch it dont take sawing with a knife to get to blood . Any one who has bled out pig cow goat knows those videos are theatrics ! I did a search to find a unedited version I dont think there is one.

My problem with these beheading videos is the style is different from their other videos even their early beheading videos . The older ones relished in displaying the gore the pain agony and pure brutality of it with close ups. This is way to sanitized .

Are they now worried about our feelings ? Or worried the shock of the gore will disturbs us ?

I believe it is designed for mass consumption to pull our heart strings. They want us mad over it.

Is it to sway the public to back a war? or I it to make use push to leave Isis alone? I think its purpose is to get us behind a war effort.

This jihadi john looks and acts like the american at the end of the flames of war www...(dot)youtube.com/watch?v=fC9OLE-zHyE a clip from the end with a guy they say is american get a screen shot of his eyes compare to jihadi john kinda similar as is both have under arm holster have a trained stance and act like a true service man not a undisciplined recruit .

There was a movie clip I saw it I showed a scene just like this jihadist in black about to behead someone in orange . Will paste like here when I find it.

a reply to: Fylgje

The new ISIS vid's seem fake to me and I said it since I watched the first one, as did many others. And no, I could never find an "un-edited" version that shows the beheading. Only the Hollywood-style version.

Sarcasm says:

In my best Sam Kinison:

Oh my gawd duuuude or dudette! Do you know how flip top, taxi derby,
peanut shelled, raped ape, insane you are? How dare you question
your manipulated corporate owned, minor bird media? We live in
america! WTF are you doing not sucking up your spoon fed portion
of political total bull####? Don't you know, if someone sees you, they
may get the wrong idea? And then they may actually begin to believe
they can think. Then what? I'll tell you what! Pretty soon it won't be
long either, thinking will begin to spread and then, and then, I'll begin
to believe I can think as well! And I will not let that happen! Ahhh! Ahhh!

originally posted by: weirdguy
Why the # would anyone watch murder videos? I'm all for freedom of speech or whatever but I also believe that such things can be taken to far. Just like child porn, this is a classic example of why the internet needs to be censored.

If any of you think it is cool or kid yourselves into thinking "it's just personal research", then you need serious #ing therapy. People are being MURDERED in cold blood, it is not entertainment you stupid people!

If we are going to advance to the next level of civilization, then widespread international laws need to be implemented to stop Troglodytes from viewing murders online.

But then maybe I'm just old fashioned, just sayin'

Holdback on calling people stupid pal, what is wrong with seeing a murder? Do they not happen, do I not have a choice in what I want to see?

And don't compare it to child pornography, that is completely different where the publication and proliferation through the internet increases the crime of child abuse not to mention that getting off on watching a child is an incur able mental illness which the threat of jail does not cure. So yes, these sites should be closed down and the makers found, going after the watchers without a cure is not a winning strategy.

As far as watching a murder or aftermath of a drone strike or a car crash, it doesn't make me want to go and do it, in many cases it is the opposite, slow down, protest against land mines etc.

You are old fashioned in your thoughts in my opinion but you are allowed yours and do not watch this stuff. I on the other hand want to desensitize myself to things that are happening, watching it doesn't excite me nor promote feelings of wanting to commit murder or crime.

Perhaps if they did show photos of car accidents people would slow down.

It also gives you an insight into how little life means in some parts of the world, that's right, it opens your mind to what is really going on, you just bury your head in the sand and think somehow we will rise to a better plane of consciousness by doing nothing different.

a reply to: TheCrowMan

do I not have a choice in what I want to see?

It's not about what you want to see.
It's about what the U.S government wants you to
see. And the bideos are still up aren't they? Causing
a big bombastic bunch of absolute crap to occupy
social media. These people responsible for the these
charades, think their smarter then us. Unbelievable
how many are so determined to prove them correct.

originally posted by: grandmakdw
I haven't watched one, I refuse to.

However, right now, this very minute

a close friend

of a friend

is now being held by the Islamic State of Daesh for beheading.


So, if you are wondering if it is all real. It is.

What is the name?

originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: TheCrowMan

do I not have a choice in what I want to see?

It's not about what you want to see.
It's about what the U.S government wants you to
see. And the bideos are still up aren't they? Causing
a big bombastic bunch of absolute crap to occupy
social media. These people responsible for the these
charades, think their smarter then us. Unbelievable
how many are so determined to prove them correct.

I don't believe the US government is even a 100th as powerful as the conspiracy theorists do.

That's why I don't support many of them.

So no, I won't be dictated to by what the US gov want me to see. In the case of these be headings, no thanks, I don't want to see them and I don't want terrorists to get a media outlet.

I can't help but think of this classic 'National Lampoon' magazine cover.
Not trying to make light of the situation. It just seems to be a similar tactic.

originally posted by: seabhac-rua
a reply to: Staroth

Well according to Agit8dChop you're a liar....or mistaken.

Take your pick, they're the only options he's allowing.

I'm going to go with mistaken, as a full uncensored ISIS beheading video doesn't exist on the internet. Can you U2U me or email me a link showing that I am mistaken?

Look, I dont know what I've done to offend you, but your pretty agro and spoiling for a fight its seems.
so, I'm going to point you to this thread and this thread which explains the ATS idea behind being polite and respectful even if you dont agree with someone, its called being mature! (we've all faltered so dont worry about it)

You dont have to agree with my points (or others) as to why we believe these ISIS movies are suspicious and are an attempt at tricking us, but atleast act/chat/debate/post like an adult so we can have a serious discuss about it.

crap like this:

originally posted by: seabhac-rua
a reply to: Agit8dChop
I know I'm totally wasting my time "discussing" anything with you.

originally posted by: seabhac-rua
a reply to: Agit8dChop
I hope I'm as perceptive as you when I grow up daddy.

is just a waste of space in a good thread.

It is simple. They have learnt from previous beheadings that to show the complete brutality of it does not get the target audience watching. It gets gorehounds and people who watch these things with their morning coffee.

Ma and pa teatowell wont watch it if its not on the news, and its the general public who these guys are trying to put fear into.

these videos are NOT fake, they may be Staged however. In such a way to draw the public in to view them but then imply the act, and ultimately show you the deceased person.

They have had more publicity than any of the previous jihadists who would slaughter their victims on camera, to which even bin laden said "guys, staahhp!"

all of this "they are fake!!!" cries are annoying, do you really think the dead body just gets up and wanders back off to the jihad studio?

originally posted by: Agit8dChop

originally posted by: AlphaHawk
a reply to: Agit8dChop

So people are dying, including the one purported to have been be-headed, so how does that mean we're being fooled?

Maybe these people were shot, died of dehydration or snake bite who knows.. they have made these movies with the editing deliberately to convince you of something that isn't really occurring.
I'm surprised at how easy members of this site are swallowing the main stream media's versions of ''facts'' surrounding these movies.

Right.. lol.. abducted by millitants, and then die of dehydration.. or a snake bites all of their heads off. just after they make the video.

It is astonishing that if there is even something askew, it's gotta be the exact opposite.

Imagine knowing youre going to die anyway, and you are put through the sham of a production video. its no less terror for those poor souls who are dead.

a reply to: sn0rch

fair point, bad suggestions.
What I was trying to get across is, you dont see these men beheaded. it fades to black and all you get is a photo of a corpse. I dont doubt the men are dead, but how they died, when they died etc is complete disconnect from the video.
The video wants you to believe they died in that piece of footage when it went black.

Everyone's so sure of what happened with little to no proof, all they have is the TV screen telling them.
I want a little more proof before I start mocking people who question it, because that's all im doing, questioning the ''truth'' we're being told in this propaganda war. A few of you seem to think thats absurd behavior, which is really odd considering we're on a conspiracy site.

originally posted by: learnatic
in all the beheading videos that purport to show a beheading, count the number of backward and forward strokes shown and match that with signs of blood coming out of the body.

The pictures of the beheaded body could easily have been faked with photoshop.

Have any of the bodies been sent back to the family or the home country for burial"?

Have any of the beheaded bodies been inspected by a coroner in any of the home countries?

Have any funerals taken place for these beheaded persons in their home country?

now come up with a good reason WHY theyd go through all that bother of faking these things, when they do it all the time.

has to be a good reason... I mean photoshopping a decapitation... ugh

I'll never understand why there is such a sensitivity about these kind of videos being public domain. If you don't want to watch it, don't. I mean, I guess they shouldn't just show it on mainstream tv news, but I'd be fine with that too.

I really believe that media should not be hidden or censored. I can't stand it when I see the remarks of "get this out of here!" It's truth. If it's happening, I want to see the truth. And I think the public would be better off and not so much in denial mode of all the horrors of the world.

I've seen beheading videos (and much, much worse), but I have not seen beheading videos of these recent ones. I looked a bit, but didn't find them. Was quite surprised and dismayed at how the media on the internet is being more and more controlled.

originally posted by: Agit8dChop
a reply to: sn0rch

fair point, bad suggestions.
What I was trying to get across is, you dont see these men beheaded. it fades to black and all you get is a photo of a corpse. I dont doubt the men are dead, but how they died, when they died etc is complete disconnect from the video.
The video wants you to believe they died in that piece of footage when it went black.

Perhaps we don't see the actual beheading because the guy in black with the hood is scared to do it himself? Videos goes black, in comes Bruno the executioner to do the killing, then filming resumes showing the corpse. The tough talking terrorist in black might actually sleep with a Teddy Bear. He did graduate from an England or USA university says the FBI.
-cwm

a reply to: NoRulesAllowed

I know where to look for them, though I wont. I have seen similar videos and I get the jist of it. I think I will let this one go. I dont like to see soldiers and contractors being hurt.

originally posted by: TheCrowMan
a reply to: AlphaHawk

Perhaps if was a bad choice of words on behalf of the poster but I as an adult human want to decide what I see and yes, if it is a car crash, Darwin Award, aftermath of a bomb attack who has the right to tell me I am odd for wanting to see what might happen to my body or what I might expect to see if I was involved in a tragic accident?

Sorry but I find it is biology and a perfectly natural and reasonable reaction of human inquisitive behavior which years of brain washing makes some if us think it is a perverse behavior.

That's how i feel and that's why I'm a member of one of those kinds of sites that show real death and aftermath. It helps one understand death more, and you SEE just how insane fellow humans can be. I suppose in a wee way it can make some people conditioned to death so a group like Isis doesn't get the horror affect they want from viewers. THAT is just a guess from me. If I saw those things in reality, I'd be losing my cookies fast and fainting and stuff. Pics and vids are one thing. Reality? egh.....

a reply to: JiggyPotamus

You know, maybe the govt etc doesn't want these vids posted by other sites because someone could get hold of them and find out how and when they were edited? I know NOTHING of this field, but to anyone who does, would that be possible???? I mean we have that info on regular camera film, knowing if even the tiniest thing was tampered with, etc., where it was taken and other info.

Why not with video?

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Agit8dChop
a reply to: sn0rch

fair point, bad suggestions.
What I was trying to get across is, you dont see these men beheaded. it fades to black and all you get is a photo of a corpse. I dont doubt the men are dead, but how they died, when they died etc is complete disconnect from the video.
The video wants you to believe they died in that piece of footage when it went black.

Perhaps we don't see the actual beheading because the guy in black with the hood is scared to do it himself? Videos goes black, in comes Bruno the executioner to do the killing, then filming resumes showing the corpse. The tough talking terrorist in black might actually sleep with a Teddy Bear. He did graduate from an England or USA university says the FBI.
-cwm

I'd think he'd be killed by ISIS for not doing his duty. I would think anyone who CANT kill for ISIS means they have a bleeding heart for the 'outlanders' and would be seen as traitors.
So there's another reason to doubt this is real as they want us to make it out to be.