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Q: Has anyone actually seen an alleged uncensored ISIS beheading video?

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posted on Oct, 4 2014 @ 08:30 PM
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originally posted by: MarlinGrace

originally posted by: EA006
a reply to: thesmokingman

Agreed. I've heard the response "somebody should wipe them out" multiple times when it's mentioned on the news.
I'll also pitch that the reason this is the widely touted view is because the majority of those spouting this BS get their news from MSM and don't research the truth.
If you can't be arsed looking, don't complain when someone #s on your doorstep.


I can tell you I found several videos on the net of ISIS driving down the FRWY shooting people as they pulled up next to them. When they missed and the people pulled off the road they tracked them down and executed them on the spot. They shot hundreds in the head into ditches, and ponds. Seen those as well. These people are ruthless. Haven't seen any of their beheadings but the videos I have seen, they need to be wiped out. There is no trial, no conversation, no ID check just shoot, kill, and move on. If they come to my doorstep at least we can shoot back. I will just send them next door to the liberal democrats, they don't like guns. They can open the door and start negotiating/pleading.

Do you know how many rebel groups there are out there? Look, I am not saying ISIS is not a rebel group, but they ARE Saudi/Israeli/US funded and trained in most cases. Again, not saying that there are not bad folks out there, lets just say ISIS is not the threat the US is trying to lead the world to believe that they are.




posted on Oct, 4 2014 @ 08:31 PM
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a reply to: NoRulesAllowed
I really dont understand eiether. If the point is to shock and provoke I dont know why the edit them. Also radical islamist groups have never cared to show the whole thing before.

Not that I want to see it. Juat wondering.



posted on Oct, 4 2014 @ 08:33 PM
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originally posted by: AlphaHawk
a reply to: Agit8dChop

So people are dying, including the one purported to have been be-headed, so how does that mean we're being fooled?



Because the movies are designed in such a way to make you think your witnessing the beginning of the beheading. These people died, yes - but not the way the movie is showing you. Putting the knife to a throat, pretending to saw, cutting to black and showing a photo of a corpse is a poor attempt at it.

Maybe these people were shot, died of dehydration or snake bite who knows.. they have made these movies with the editing deliberately to convince you of something that isn't really occurring.
I'm surprised at how easy members of this site are swallowing the main stream media's versions of ''facts'' surrounding these movies.



posted on Oct, 4 2014 @ 08:33 PM
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originally posted by: MarlinGrace

originally posted by: EA006
a reply to: thesmokingman

Agreed. I've heard the response "somebody should wipe them out" multiple times when it's mentioned on the news.
I'll also pitch that the reason this is the widely touted view is because the majority of those spouting this BS get their news from MSM and don't research the truth.
If you can't be arsed looking, don't complain when someone #s on your doorstep.


I can tell you I found several videos on the net of ISIS driving down the FRWY shooting people as they pulled up next to them. When they missed and the people pulled off the road they tracked them down and executed them on the spot. They shot hundreds in the head into ditches, and ponds. Seen those as well. These people are ruthless. Haven't seen any of their beheadings but the videos I have seen, they need to be wiped out. There is no trial, no conversation, no ID check just shoot, kill, and move on. If they come to my doorstep at least we can shoot back. I will just send them next door to the liberal democrats, they don't like guns. They can open the door and start negotiating/pleading.


I'm not defending what ISIS do. I do believe they where specifically created to propagate the type of response mentioned in my previous post by any means necessary.
This is a well crafted and funded strategic move in the ME.


edit on 4-10-2014 by EA006 because: Grammer



posted on Oct, 4 2014 @ 08:35 PM
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From what I was able to ascertain, ISIS released the videos in that censored manner. I was aware of the government essentially forcing websites to remove such videos after 2 or 3 had been released, and although I have heard mention of uncensored videos, I do not believe they exist. There are many things that seem incredibly odd, but one of the strangest is the fact that there has been no censoring of a plethora of ISIS beheading videos, or such videos released by other terrorist groups. These videos were shown in their entirety, with neither ISIS nor the government censoring them. In fact, if I remember correctly, there were still such videos being released which depicted the murder of civilians and fighters in Iraq and Syria even after the censoring of the videos that garnered widespread attention.

So what I'm essentially saying is that if the government is responsible for censoring the videos, then why have they only censored these videos in which ISIS addresses the United States and Britain before killing the citizen of that respective nation, while the government has done nothing to prevent the release or spread of the large number of videos depicting this same barbaric act? And many of these videos are likely much more graphic, as they depict multiple people being beheaded after pleading for their lives. Therefore a "moral crusade" to spare US citizens the horrors of viewing such atrocities seems quite sketchy considering the videos that are still coming out of Iraq and Syria at present.

Even though I do know the government was essentially threatening people into taking the videos down, had ISIS released an uncensored video there is absolutely no way the government could keep it off the internet. I am quite certain that it is to be found if it exists and was released without the editing. I did not do a thorough search, but all of the sites that have no qualms about carrying such videos only had the edited versions. At the very least such videos should be accessible somewhere on the deep web, and I have seen nothing offering a URL or anything to even suggest uncensored videos exist. Knowing the other videos that ISIS has released, I do find it difficult to believe that they would release a censored version of the events. I have analyzed the possible reasons for ISIS doing such a thing, and I concluded that it is not very likely, since none of the reasons for censoring the video would have been of any benefit to ISIS.



posted on Oct, 4 2014 @ 08:45 PM
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I haven't watched one, I refuse to.

However, right now, this very minute

a close friend

of a friend

is now being held by the Islamic State of Daesh for beheading.


So, if you are wondering if it is all real. It is.



posted on Oct, 4 2014 @ 08:50 PM
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Why the # would anyone watch murder videos? I'm all for freedom of speech or whatever but I also believe that such things can be taken to far. Just like child porn, this is a classic example of why the internet needs to be censored.

If any of you think it is cool or kid yourselves into thinking "it's just personal research", then you need serious #ing therapy. People are being MURDERED in cold blood, it is not entertainment you stupid people!


If we are going to advance to the next level of civilization, then widespread international laws need to be implemented to stop Troglodytes from viewing murders online.

But then maybe I'm just old fashioned, just sayin'



posted on Oct, 4 2014 @ 08:51 PM
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a reply to: Agit8dChop

I've said in another thread that the chances of getting the propaganda speeches right, then a clean kill is us highly unlikely, and then you can't do it again because the guy is dead.

They more than likely filmed the speech multiple times and picked the best one.



posted on Oct, 4 2014 @ 08:53 PM
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Apparently...in times past...an axis of evil had WMD...that was a pretty good reason back then, for an invasion...having exhausted that excuse, another has been invented...but most likely, these poor men/women were shot...the beheadings occuring after the vids and after the shooting...that they were edited, leaves that possibility quite open...they clearly, in the video 'evidence', could not be shot in the head - which would hamper visual ID'ing by family and authorities (if that were the reason)...

Just a thought (and thoughts to the victims and thier families)...

Å99



posted on Oct, 4 2014 @ 08:54 PM
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a reply to: onequestion

You're right ISIS is nothing new, but the rest you're way off..

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Oct, 4 2014 @ 08:56 PM
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About 2 or 3 weeks ago, Alex Jones claimed on his show to have seen the full (unedited) video of one of the first two guys (don't recall which one) being beheaded without any fade-to-black editing.

But then again, this is AJ so... take it with a grain of salt.
edit on 4-10-2014 by UseHerName because: +



posted on Oct, 4 2014 @ 08:58 PM
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a reply to: NoRulesAllowed

Don't take other peoples word for it, find out for yourself by searching for:

مؤسسة الفرقان تقدم : “رسالة أخرى إلى أمريكا وحلفائها”

Or this:

W5bn^33BE5t*o4n$Rt$5Mx*k^4i)vNW



edit on 4-10-2014 by oletimer because: .



posted on Oct, 4 2014 @ 08:59 PM
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originally posted by: Agit8dChop

People who say the footage of the beheading exists are either lying or confused by another film.



So those are the options you're giving us huh?

Thanks.

I hope I'm as perceptive as you when I grow up daddy.



posted on Oct, 4 2014 @ 09:01 PM
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a reply to: Agit8dChop

Hilarious.

These ISIS people love to cut people's heads off, but, they didn't cut these guys heads off because.....you said so?



posted on Oct, 4 2014 @ 09:04 PM
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a reply to: seabhac-rua

thank you for such a constructive and participating post. most people who dont agree usually discuss the points instead of mocking people, i guess you do need to grow up a bit as you suggested?

as another poster said, if real uncensored footage existed of the ''blacked out'' moments when this beheading apparently occurred, then it would have gone as viral as the initial ISIS movie.

so yes, if someone is claiming to have/seen that uncensored version they are either lying or mistaken.

what alternative is there?



posted on Oct, 4 2014 @ 09:13 PM
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a reply to: Agit8dChop


I know I'm totally wasting my time "discussing" anything with you.

Your logic....is just your logic.

You don't get why ISIS made the videos the way they made them.....so they must be fake.

If I was doing psy-ops I would show the whole shebang, and shut people like you up, but then you'd find something else to moan about wouldn't you?

But the fact of the matter is that they(ISIS) did what they did for PR, and it worked, those videos reached a far wider audience because they were edited the way they were.



posted on Oct, 4 2014 @ 09:13 PM
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in all the beheading videos that purport to show a beheading, count the number of backward and forward strokes shown and match that with signs of blood coming out of the body.

The pictures of the beheaded body could easily have been faked with photoshop.

Have any of the bodies been sent back to the family or the home country for burial"?

Have any of the beheaded bodies been inspected by a coroner in any of the home countries?

Have any funerals taken place for these beheaded persons in their home country?



posted on Oct, 4 2014 @ 09:18 PM
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a reply to: onequestion

My opinion. All done on the same day, a series of botched executions by amateurs. Released at later dates to antagonise humanity.



posted on Oct, 4 2014 @ 09:21 PM
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a reply to: learnatic

So, lets just say, hypothetically, that somebody had the answers to your questions.

Yes the bodies were sent home(as f*ing if)

Yes the bodies were inspected by a coroner, and he found that the heads were no longer attached to the rest of each of the respective cadavers.

And yes, funerals were observed for each of the victims and all the families and relatives acknowledged that it was their loved ones being buried.

Ok?

I'm pretty sure that certain posters on here would still contend fakery.

Why?

That's how they roll.



posted on Oct, 4 2014 @ 09:22 PM
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a reply to: NoRulesAllowed

I seen one in full and I wasn't expecting to. I thought I was going to see an edited version. It was horrific to say the least.
It was on Reddit. I believe it was James Foley. It's been awhile back.



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