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originally posted by: dragonridr
originally posted by: spy66
a reply to: dragonridr
So what you are basically saying is that the pro russian separatists have the military strength to fight the Ukraininan army and actually force them back, but Russia dont?
Jesses where do you People get Your info from?
Simple Ukraine can come up with a force of about 140000 Russia would have to severly weaken their defense pulling troops from other areas to matchg more than that and would take months to move all that stuff. On the average of quick deployment meaning say 2 weeks Russia could move about 90000 troops into theater and roughly a couple of hundred tanks meaning it would be an even match. As far as the separatists they would be irrelevant because than its not urban combat its a slug fest.
originally posted by: dragonridr
If Russia wants to have a professional army they need to get ris of the soviet doctrine and look to the west which has adopted better training with fewer numbers and better equipment. Russia has always relied on shear numbers times have changed.
originally posted by: Black_Fox
USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!
Now can I fit in?
Seriously, do people live in reality?
Where's this sense that America could, would, will come out of the war on terror...errr......Isis...errr......IsiL....or what have you in tact?
Or for the better?
No want or need for wars with Russia, China, Iran either.
Where's the track record for predicting success?
WW2=Lost without the aid of Russia
Iraq/Afghanistan=Really? Fail,Fail + made things worse.
Plus you have a beaten down population, unemployed, taxed up the yazoo, and divided.
If I was to look to the future of this conflict, I'd personally look to the past.
Look at the Roman Empire, Greece/Sparta, The USSR, British Empire, They all lasted for a while, but now their time has past.
Why would the U.S be any different?
It wont be.
Truth is, The politicians, not its people, put this country onto the road to ruin.
Which seems to always be the case.
I'm not wanting anything to come from any of this, as neither me, nor any of you are truly on the sidelines if something happens.
And sense everyone from media to message boards has a what if opinion on these situations, here's one to add...
originally posted by: Wirral Bagpuss
Russia SHOULD be worried by Islamic State. One word springs to mind Chechnya. Extremists will get through to Russia by the back door and cause chaos. Putin is well advised to stop messing about in the Ukraine and join the rest of the world in sorting out the Islamic State and it's affiliates threat if only to help protect their boarders. Quite simple really. United we stand, divided we fall. Or perhaps Putin and his inner circle are so cut off from the reality of the situation on the ground they don't realise the threat they and us all face.
originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: GargIndia
I can understand what a lowlife some people are on this forum.
Oh my, did you just really say that?
I had thought I had heard it all, but obviously I haven't.