2.) The muslims DO worship they same god as christians - says so right there in their Qur'an. Now whether you want to make the argument that they have
stolen your god or not, that's a different matter. You could argue that, but you can't argue that their Qur'an claims it's another god. It doesn't -
unless you're willing to give up Adam, Abraham, Noah, Lot, Jesus, etc.
This is not entirely accurate nenothtu.
Under Abraham...there are two sons involved. Ishmael and Isaac. Paul goes to great lengths to explain the difference in Ishmael and the line of
That Ishmael is the OLde Testament and is in bondage with her children.. the Bondwoman and her son..Ishmael...given on Mt Sinai. That the Olde
Testament is in bondage with her children. Not that we are not to know the Olde Testament but it is in Bondage with her children. Those under Olde
Testament Law are in Bondage.
But Issac ..the New Testament is free and the mother of us all. Many preachers and ministers do not teach the fullness of this and what is means. This
is why you will often see me state..that I am not an Ishmaelite.
And many of the counterfeits..including counterfeit Christianity attempt to mislead the Believers about this and put them in to Bondage..one way of
doing this is "Free Will." Which is works...OLde Testament Bondage.
One needs to be well studied in this pattern and what it means otherwise it is very easy to get believers onto a counterfeit religion and think it is
Christianity ..when it is not. Only the appearance of Christian.
Do you refuse to pay the special christian tax called "alms", too?
Christian owe no special tax or alms. That is bondage on the part of many churches. Just like this 10 per cent giving as a tithe. The only instruction
of which I know is to give first fruits. Not necessarily money per se..but first fruits.
The church to which I attend has two boxes in the back..one for the church and one for the minister..that is it.
Nothing more needed.
In my mind most Muslims don't want to bother anyone or be bothered. I can find no fault with this as it is how I try to live my life. But I do know of
certain things in the religion which are not conducive to this. I can say the same thing for Roman Catholicism...as some of this is still in the
religion. It is just a matter of if someone is zealous sufficient to carry it out...and it has been carried out in the RCC.
Somewhere in your posts nenothtu you made a comment about it becoming a political movement verses a religion per se.
I am in agreement with this. So too it became historically with the RCC.
I am also often want to describe much of politics to day as a religion ..a devout and zealous religion. Just not a religion bound by most of what
people believe constitutes a religion.
Politics to me has today a very different standard from what most people understand and think. They have been conditioned not to think of politics in
this manner. To me public ignorance of many things is become the stock in trade of much of leadership and politicians today. In this manner it is
easier for them to default through on an ignorant and uninformed public by putting them on the emotional control strings. Someone is playing them like
I believe verily in the Separation of Church and State..and for good reasons when you become aware historically of the mischief that governments have
gotten into when getting into bed with the churches...and vice versa.
They should be separated.
This is not the case in Islam. It is not historically the case with the RCC.
My true potential is AT the roots of my primitive nature - overcomplicating the system always leads to a crash, and I believe we may be
observing such at this very instant in time. We've risen so far above the roots of our natures now that we have no foundation left to build on here,
and Earth is about to reject us as a failed experiment.
I tend towards agreeing with this statement of yours. Nicely stated.
If you think you can improve on nature, and thereby improve the quality of life on Earth, then you are going to one day be rudely awakened by
a wakeup call from Mother Nature. She'll only put up with so much tinkering with her mechanisms in the name of "improvement". When it's "us against
the planet", the planet is gonna win every time - it's bigger, meaner, and cares a lot less about what happens to us in the long haul.
Agree again here. Nicely stated once more.
LOL LOL nenothtu!! And the hits keep coming!!
Believe it. I absolutely detest humanity. I love people, but have no use for "humanity" at all. It's the most avaricious collection of nothing
to ever tread the universe.
I like and love certain people too. Just not in large groups. NO use for humanity here. Most of the world can just keep going on by. Which is why I
prefer the Graveyard shifts...more Indians less chiefs and fewer people around. When they are working..I am at home or taking care of business before
they get off work. Less traffic on the graveyard shift too. I hate traffic.
A lot of women have wanted me to take them places..they are all daywalkers. I am not. If they want to do the driving fine...I ll sleep..they can
drive. Otherwise I travel at the early hours of the morning before most are awake..not bankers hours. Good grief..most people think everyone works
days...and their beliefs and expectations are accordingly ...no thanks.
Nicely done old man..nicely done.
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