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GOP tells Obama to ignore congress one day after suing him for ignoring Congress.

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posted on Jul, 31 2014 @ 08:20 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: neo96

careful neo.

if we actually cite all the parts of that law that Obama has selectively ignored, we might actually get to the bottom of all this recent immigration !!

The plans are getting exposed.



They don't care.

For some odd reason Gop haters think congress is going to swing their way.

After 6 YEARS of hype and blame they are going to be in for a rude awakening.



posted on Jul, 31 2014 @ 08:21 PM
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a reply to: muse7


Republicans keep saying that Obama is the worst president ever, but what about Boehner? This HAS to be the worst speaker of the house in the history of the Republic.



Of course Harry Reid has nothing to do with anything right ?



What can Boehner do with Harry on the other side ?




posted on Jul, 31 2014 @ 08:22 PM
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a reply to: Blackmarketeer


Boehner is the leader of the worst Congress this nation has EVER seen.


I try to avoid the partisan, finger pointing - baiting and bashing threads. Having said that, I don't know how these guys can even hold their heads up anymore

No matter how you feel about Obama - the fact that some conservatives would rather screw their constituents than compromise says everything. I blame the rational, moderate - thinking man's conservatives the most - for not standing up and saying - enough


“Some of the things we’re doing without Congress are making a difference, but we could do so much more if Congress would just come on and help out a little bit.

“Just come on. Come on and help out a little bit. Stop being mad all the time. Stop hating all the time. Come on. Let’s get some work done together.”
www.independent.co.uk...

It seems a little undignified at this point - that a president should have to beg


Even now Congress continues to DO NOTHING.


It's going to be fun to watch the GOP wrap up a whole lot of nothing then try to sell it to us in 2016


edit on 7/31/2014 by Spiramirabilis because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 31 2014 @ 08:24 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Funny it didn't stop him from repealing the aca 50 times? Why stop now?



posted on Jul, 31 2014 @ 08:29 PM
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originally posted by: LDragonFire
a reply to: xuenchen

Funny it didn't stop him from repealing the aca 50 times? Why stop now?


Funny it didn't stop the current potus from changing the ACA over 20 times by himself.

www.galen.org...



By our count at the Galen Institute, more than 42 significant changes already have been made to ObamaCare: at least 24 that President Obama has made unilaterally, 16 that Congress has passed and the president has signed, and 2 by the Supreme Court.


www.galen.org...

Since the ACA has been changed so many times.

Since so many delays have been made.

Since so many 'deferments' have been made.

There is absolutely NO GD REASON it shouldn't be.

Then considering this FACT:



Medicaid in the United States is a social health care program for families and individuals with low income and resources. The Health Insurance Association of America describes Medicaid as a "government insurance program for persons of all ages whose income and resources are insufficient to pay for health care."


en.wikipedia.org...

With this golden nugget:



The Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act (EMTALA)[1] is an act of the United States Congress, passed in 1986 as part of the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (COBRA). It requires hospitals that accept payments from Medicare to provide emergency health care treatment to anyone needing it regardless of citizenship, legal status, or ability to pay. There are no reimbursement provisions


en.wikipedia.org...

There was NO REASON for the ACA to be created.



posted on Jul, 31 2014 @ 08:37 PM
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originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: Blackmarketeer


Boehner is the leader of the worst Congress this nation has EVER seen.


I try to avoid the partisan, finger pointing - baiting and bashing threads. Having said that, I don't know how these guys can even hold their heads up anymore

No matter how you feel about Obama - the fact that some conservatives would rather screw their constituents than compromise says everything. I blame the rational, moderate - thinking man's conservatives the most - for not standing up and saying - enough


“Some of the things we’re doing without Congress are making a difference, but we could do so much more if Congress would just come on and help out a little bit.

“Just come on. Come on and help out a little bit. Stop being mad all the time. Stop hating all the time. Come on. Let’s get some work done together.”
www.independent.co.uk...

It seems a little undignified at this point - that a president should have to beg


Even now Congress continues to DO NOTHING.


It's going to be fun to watch the GOP wrap up a whole lot of nothing then try to sell it to us in 2016

"Come on and help a little bit." What does that mean? Does anyone know exactly what Obama wants? He wants amnesty for everyone crossing the border and there's no end in site as to when they'll stop crossing. If I were a Rep member of Congress I'd call a press conference and say, just as Colin Powell said to Bush, "If you break it you own it Mr. President as do all the democrats in Congress that support your actions." Referring to allow hundreds of thousands to enter the country illegally, consuming resources and funding that American citizens could use now in these hard times. I'd spell it out for everyone so there's no misunderstanding. Then let the democrats own this.



posted on Jul, 31 2014 @ 08:37 PM
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originally posted by: LDragonFire
a reply to: xuenchen

Funny it didn't stop him from repealing the aca 50 times? Why stop now?


Strange also is nothing stopped the Obama Administration from re-designing that 2008 law either.

I think we've been had.




posted on Jul, 31 2014 @ 08:40 PM
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Congress just passed the highway bill...



posted on Jul, 31 2014 @ 08:40 PM
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a reply to: Bilk22


Referring to allow hundreds of thousands to enter the country illegally, consuming resources and funding that American citizens could use now in these hard times. I'd spell it out for everyone so there's no misunderstanding. Then let the democrats own this.


Yup.

The Democrats *OWN* the immigration problems 100%.

It seems they have amassed several political monopolies.

All will lead to political bankruptcies.




posted on Jul, 31 2014 @ 08:48 PM
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After House Republicans pulled their attempt at a border bill in a conspicuous display of party incompetence, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and his office rubbed some salt in those wounds:

"Senator Reid agrees with House Republican leaders’ statement that President Obama has the authority to take steps on immigration reform on his own," said. "He's glad Republicans have come around and hopes this means they’ll be dropping their frivolous lawsuit against the President, instead of continuing to waste the American people’s time and money."


This was shortly after the GOP abandoned their own border crisis bill. Like I've said, this Congress under Republican's ineffectual leadership has done nothing, especially regarding the "crisis" at the border. Now Boehner is telling us that Obama should just go ahead and ignore him and Congress to "act unilaterally," after all their BS bluster over suing the president for acting without Congress. Something most recognize he had little choice in doing, with Republicans declaring way back in January 2008 that their one and only goal would be to defeat Obama at any cost.

Sen. Harry Reid's office rubs some salt in Republican wounds on House border bill blunder

House GOP Abandons Border Crisis Bill Amid Conservative Opposition



posted on Jul, 31 2014 @ 08:49 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: Bilk22


Referring to allow hundreds of thousands to enter the country illegally, consuming resources and funding that American citizens could use now in these hard times. I'd spell it out for everyone so there's no misunderstanding. Then let the democrats own this.


Yup.

The Democrats *OWN* the immigration problems 100%.

It seems they have amassed several political monopolies.

All will lead to political bankruptcies.



That they do since they gave us NAFTA which created the current 'immigration' issue'.



My New Year's celebrations this year were haunted by memories of January 1, 1994 -- the day that the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) went into effect. I remember crying that day, thinking about the proud men and women in union halls across America, the Mexican campesinos and the inspiring Canadian activists I had met during the fight against NAFTA, and hoping desperately that our dire predictions would be proved wrong




Such outcomes include a staggering $181 billion U.S. trade deficit with NAFTA partners Mexico and Canada and the related loss of 1 million net U.S. jobs under NAFTA, growing income inequality, displacement of more than one million Mexican campesino farmers and a doubling of desperate immigration from Mexico, and more than $360 million paid to corporations after "investor-state" tribunal attacks on, and rollbacks of, domestic public interest policies.


NAFTA at 20: One Million U.S. Jobs Lost, Higher Income Inequality

Our immigration problems stem from this.



posted on Jul, 31 2014 @ 08:51 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen


The Democrats *OWN* the immigration problems 100%.


Reality: the Republicans ABANDONED the immigration problem 100% - and left it for others to fix, especially their 2008 law that is part of the ongoing problem with unattended minors threatened with child sex trafficking.



posted on Jul, 31 2014 @ 08:51 PM
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a reply to: Blackmarketeer

Did Boehner or anybody else actually say all that ?

Or is this whole thing out of context ?

What could the House even accomplish when the Senate would butcher anything sent over ?





posted on Jul, 31 2014 @ 08:54 PM
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originally posted by: Blackmarketeer
a reply to: xuenchen


The Democrats *OWN* the immigration problems 100%.


Reality: the Republicans ABANDONED the immigration problem 100% - and left it for others to fix, especially their 2008 law that is part of the ongoing problem with unattended minors threatened with child sex trafficking.


But the Obama Administration has selectively re-legislated that law.

Unless of course somebody can actually show us where and what has been enforced ?



Here's the entire law....
William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008

Show us the pertinent parts that would have helped the current situation.



posted on Jul, 31 2014 @ 08:55 PM
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a reply to: Blackmarketeer

Yeah here is a 'reality' check.

www.nytimes.com...

Guess who blocked that ?

en.wikipedia.org...

Would you look at those 'majorities' ?

Oh guess what ?

They are the ones who wrote the law being citing to allow 'refugees' here too.

ETA:

Here is another 'reality' check:

The Seven Amnesties Passed by Congress

W would have been 8 if Guess who hadn't shot it down so they could offer it for the 8th time.

edit on 31-7-2014 by neo96 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 31 2014 @ 08:56 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen


Strange also is nothing stopped the Obama Administration from re-designing that 2008 law either.


"Re-designing laws," passing laws, drafting bills and laws, that is Congress' job. Republicans saw their one bill on the border crisis defeated by the parties ultra-right wing, led by Cruz. Now they've got nothing, and to top it off, they are stating that Obama should just ignore Congress and go fix it himself - after SUING him for executive actions designed to work around an obstructionist Congress.



posted on Jul, 31 2014 @ 08:59 PM
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a reply to: neo96

From your own source:


Mr. Bush placed telephone calls to lawmakers throughout the morning, but members of his party abandoned him in droves, with only 12 of the 49 Senate Republicans sticking by him on the key procedural vote that determined the bill’s fate. Nearly one-third of Senate Democrats voted, in effect, to block action on the bill.

edit on 31-7-2014 by Blackmarketeer because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 31 2014 @ 09:00 PM
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a reply to: Blackmarketeer

Yo ?

The evil Gop is doing EXACTLY what they were elected to.

To stop asinine laws like the ACA getting created.

Forget about how this country didn't like the trifecta of 'liberal' power ?

And elected them in 2010 then KEPT them there in 2012.



posted on Jul, 31 2014 @ 09:01 PM
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a reply to: Blackmarketeer

Yeah this is from the same source too.



“The bill now dies,” said Senator Dianne Feinstein, Democrat of California, who helped write the measure.


Funny thing she is still there.



posted on Jul, 31 2014 @ 09:03 PM
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a reply to: Blackmarketeer



But the Administration has the 2008 law right ?

Which by the way was signed by Bush on Dec 23, 2008, a few weeks before Obama was "sworn" in


He passed it off to Obama, who has failed. Or has he? Hmmm.





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