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originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Kangaruex4Ewe
Any extra crime is just that. EXTRA. It is a crime that would not be committed if one was not here illegally. We can agree to disagree with whether that's ok or not. But one illegal committing one crime is one more crime that would NOT have been committed had they not been here.
You're not making any sense. Perhaps we should stop having children because they might grow up to commit crimes? Think it through. If illegal immigrants commit fewer violent crimes, particularly against American citizens, they're actually driving down your risk of being a victim.
Our ruling
Perry told Beck over 3,000 homicides were committed "by illegal aliens over the" last six years.
This claim is unsupported by the presentation he relied on, which indicates that since 2008 in Texas, more than 200,000 arrested immigrants -- foreign nationals living here with or without legal permission -- had among them accumulated 3,070 homicide charges (not convictions) in their lives. Put another way, for this declaration to hold water, one would have to assume illegal immigrants committed nearly half of the state’s homicides since 2008; we found no such data.
This statement is both incorrect and ridiculous. Pants on Fire!
originally posted by: theantediluvian
originally posted by: Sunwolf
originally posted by: theantediluvian
originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: theantediluvian
When an illegal alien comes into this country he is automatically a criminal.
Is that a violent crime like homicide or sexual assault? This thread is clearly about hyping the the threat to American citizens posed by violent criminals within the illegal immigrant population.
It seems that some here are just apologists for criminal illegal aliens.
Apologist for what? I'm just denying ignorance. Do you support irrational fear mongering?
I don't support more restrictive gun laws every time some nutjob goes on a shooting spree either. Same thing — irrational fear mongering.
originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: theantediluvian
Hmmm.
Seems PolitiFact (ultra-Left Wing) may have missed a few things.
That chart seems to tell a worse story eh.
I say the Governor may be accurate after all.
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: theantediluvian
Here ya go.
Our ruling
Perry told Beck over 3,000 homicides were committed "by illegal aliens over the" last six years.
This claim is unsupported by the presentation he relied on, which indicates that since 2008 in Texas, more than 200,000 arrested immigrants -- foreign nationals living here with or without legal permission -- had among them accumulated 3,070 homicide charges (not convictions) in their lives. Put another way, for this declaration to hold water, one would have to assume illegal immigrants committed nearly half of the state’s homicides since 2008; we found no such data.
This statement is both incorrect and ridiculous. Pants on Fire!
www.politifact.com...
originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: interupt42
definitely positively a conspiracy.
originally posted by: smithjustinb
Get 10 million out of 300 million people (3%) to sign up for Obamacare, and the liberals go crazy. 11 thousand out of 60 thousand (18%) immigrants cross the border, commit heinous crimes, and none of them bat an eye.
Another crime-related public safety concern exists from criminal aliens, who may not be affiliated with the cartels and gangs but act alone to commit crime in Texas. From October 2008 to December 2012, Texas identified a total of 141,982 unique criminal alien defendants booked into Texas county jails. These individuals, identified through the Secure Communities initiative, are responsible for at least 447,844 individual criminal charges over their criminal careers, including 2,032 homicides and 5,048 sexual assaults.
originally posted by: Helious
But... .But.... All the liberals here on ATS will just tell you they are coming here for a better life and not hurting anyone. Shame on you for exposing statistics that disagree with the agenda!!!
I have mentioned to you before, a third party is necessary to create the equilateral balance
for the existence and duration of a Modern Society.
originally posted by: smithjustinb
Get 10 million out of 300 million people (3%) to sign up for Obamacare, and the liberals go crazy. 11 thousand out of 60 thousand (18%) immigrants cross the border, commit heinous crimes, and none of them bat an eye.