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originally posted by: ~Lucidity
If it has never been clear before it should be clear now that the FDA is nothing but a puppet for Big Pharma, Ag, Tobacco.
That they are even trying to stop something that contains thousands of less harmful chemicals and will undoubtedly save money and lives is totally messed up.
originally posted by: NthOther
..... insanely high taxation of nicotine products. The state isn't interested in your health. The corporations aren't interested in your health.
They want your money. Period. And they will use your addiction against you to get it.
THAT is truly disgusting.
originally posted by: flyingfish
originally posted by: Khaleesi
a reply to: Cabin
Vaping has actually been around long enough to show that it is a safer alternative. I will need to find several links to studies, but the gist is this. Studies have been done since about 1942 if I recall correctly. An experiment was done in a hospital in 1942, vaporizing PG (Propylene Glycol) in a children's ward. The study lasted several years and the children in that ward had fewer chest infections than the control group that did not receive vapor. The other 'major ingredient' in e'cigs is VG (Vegetable Glycerine). Bothe PG an VG have been used and continue to be used in some breathing treatments in the hospital.
The discussion of nicotine can be considered from several different angles. If you consider any addiction a 'bad thing' then, yes, nicotine addiction is bad. Shift your perspective slightly and look at it this way. Nicotine is the substance that addicts you to tobacco. The OTHER chemicals in tobacco (tar, formaldehyde and several thousand other chemicals) are the real problem, causing cancer and other health problems. The nicotine by itself does not cause cancer or any other health problems (other than addiction).
"We don't have long term studies on the affects of vaping" is really a red herring. We have studies going back more than 70 years. The patent on vaping equipment has been around since some time in the 1960's. I'm not sure of the exact year but that still means evidence of vaping and the lack of medical issues resulting from vaping is 50 years old. I am busy atm but will post the links to several studies asap.
Great post! Do you have any links? I would like to read more about this.
Thanks,
"What we are doing first is tracking, and we are seeing some very concerning trends. Use of e-cigarettes in youth doubled just in the past year, and many kids are starting out with e-cigarettes and then going on to smoke conventional cigarettes."
originally posted by: candlestick
I hate those air pollution makers (smokers),I don't care their health problems.
originally posted by: flyingfish
a reply to: BanTv
It is unfortunate that a federal public health agency, especially one that is as highly reputed as the CDC has crossed the line and publicly lied in order to support its position.
Here is what the CDC director Dr. Thomas Frieden stated about an agency survey find:
"What we are doing first is tracking, and we are seeing some very concerning trends. Use of e-cigarettes in youth doubled just in the past year, and many kids are starting out with e-cigarettes and then going on to smoke conventional cigarettes."
The problem with this statement is it's unsubstantiated, the survey was a cross-sectional one and it didn't track e-cigarette users over time to see whether they went on to smoke conventional cigarettes. Dr. Frieden was lying to the public.
originally posted by: Stranglefoot82
I could have never quit if it wasn't for eciggs. The only draw back, besides from looking dorky, I found was that it caused my teeth to become very sensitive during the year I was using them. Even though it's only a short term effect I feel it was well worth it to finally kick my habit. My teeth are now as strong as ever that I'm off the eciggs. My wallet is also alittle heavier....