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As a smoker (roughly 1-2 pack of red marlboros a day) hoping to quit some day, I do not see e-cigarettes as of much better alternative.
originally posted by: flyingfish
Now you're talking! VV- mod with a Tank!!!
Research shows that higher-quality hardware and appealing flavors are important for smoking cessation. Many former smokers, including myself, report that they are tempted to go back to smoking while using the smaller devices with imitation tobacco flavoring, but we have quit smoking for good, now that there is better hardware and flavors that no longer reminded us of smoking.
originally posted by: flyingfish
a reply to: michaelmcclen
There are few people who are apposed to regulation, regulation is not the problem. The problem is lying about the whole industry in order to line the pockets of your backers and in the processes destroy small businesses and their vendors all across the country. All the while pretending to care about the public health..It's disgusting !
originally posted by: morder1
I run my own e-juice store, and make all of the liquids myself. There is only 4 common ingredients in my liquids, and most of the other vendors as well... flavoring, USP grade propylene , vegetable glycerine, and nicotine if the customer wants it.
They want to charge $5000 per approval, which my store for instance, carries over 90 flavors. so for 1 flavor, say cotton candy. you need approval for each level of nicotine you want to sell, which for each flavor, I have 4 nicotine options, and 1 no-nic option. which equals to $20,000 per the cotton candy flavor... Then if I wanted every flavor approved, thats 1.8 million dollars. How can anyone possibly afford that?
PHILADELPHIA, Aug. 8, 2013/PRNewwire-USNewswire -- E-cigarette users can breathe a little easier today. A study just released by Professor Igor Burstyn, Drexel University School of Public Health, confirms that chemicals in electronic cigarettes (e-cigarettes) pose no health concern for users or bystanders. This is the first definitive study of e-cigarette chemistry and finds that there are no health concerns based on generally accepted exposure limits.
By reviewing over 9,000 observations about the chemistry of the vapor and the liquid in e-cigarettes, Dr. Burstyn was able to determine that the levels of contaminants e-cigarette users are exposed to are insignificant, far below levels that would pose any health risk. Additionally, there is no health risk to bystanders. Proposals to ban e-cigarettes in places where smoking is banned have been based on concern there is a potential risk to bystanders, but the study shows there is no concern.
What about the cases of Exogenous lipoid pneumonia that are starting to show up from users of the e-cig?
1.) It's very rare. 2.) It typically involves a patient either ingesting, injecting, or stuffing an oil based substance somewhere in their body. That includes anything from eating it (taking daily mineral oil to "treat" chronic constipation), sticking it up their nose (using mineral oil to "treat" dry nasal passages) or actually injecting the likes of olive oil. Like here:
originally posted by: Khaleesi
a reply to: Cabin
Vaping has actually been around long enough to show that it is a safer alternative. I will need to find several links to studies, but the gist is this. Studies have been done since about 1942 if I recall correctly. An experiment was done in a hospital in 1942, vaporizing PG (Propylene Glycol) in a children's ward. The study lasted several years and the children in that ward had fewer chest infections than the control group that did not receive vapor. The other 'major ingredient' in e'cigs is VG (Vegetable Glycerine). Bothe PG an VG have been used and continue to be used in some breathing treatments in the hospital.
The discussion of nicotine can be considered from several different angles. If you consider any addiction a 'bad thing' then, yes, nicotine addiction is bad. Shift your perspective slightly and look at it this way. Nicotine is the substance that addicts you to tobacco. The OTHER chemicals in tobacco (tar, formaldehyde and several thousand other chemicals) are the real problem, causing cancer and other health problems. The nicotine by itself does not cause cancer or any other health problems (other than addiction).
"We don't have long term studies on the affects of vaping" is really a red herring. We have studies going back more than 70 years. The patent on vaping equipment has been around since some time in the 1960's. I'm not sure of the exact year but that still means evidence of vaping and the lack of medical issues resulting from vaping is 50 years old. I am busy atm but will post the links to several studies asap.