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but it seems that people who believe in conspiracy theories in general tend to have a patriotic fervor that I can't understand. I can't understand it because of the tendency that conspiracy theorists tend to have of distrusting the government.
My idea is that this tends to be the case here in the US, more so. My theory is that it has to do with the political climate of the US. For example, it seems that conspiracy theorists tend to be libertarian. Libertarians tend to be conservative, and conservatives, tend to be patriotic.
Let's just say that for argument's sake that the Illuminati did worm their way into Freemasonry early on. Undoubtedly, at least a few of the Founding Father's were Masons. So many of the ideals that your country was founded upon were ideals that run contrary to what you have faith in.
martinkb
would it be so bad? Global country, global freedom, global nation... I hope it will happen one day.
studies are showing that liberals tend to have a larger and/or more active anterior cingulate cortex, or ACC—useful in detecting and judging conflict and error—and conservatives are more likely to have an enlarged amygdala, where the development and storage of emotional memories takes place. More than one study has shown these same results, which is why I felt it was worth investigating.
en.wikipedia.org...
openminded2011
reply to post by brazenalderpadrescorpio
In the case of Americans, maybe the nationalism in question is a sort of reaction to the sometimes fierce nationalism encountered from foreign nationals coming to the US. IE their consistent loyalty and identification with their home country instead of trying to assimilate and become Americans
openminded2011
reply to post by brazenalderpadrescorpio
One prime American value, is inclusion. We want to be one people
martinkb
would it be so bad? Global country, global freedom, global nation... I hope it will happen one day.
SpaceGoatFarts
openminded2011
reply to post by brazenalderpadrescorpio
In the case of Americans, maybe the nationalism in question is a sort of reaction to the sometimes fierce nationalism encountered from foreign nationals coming to the US. IE their consistent loyalty and identification with their home country instead of trying to assimilate and become Americans
Lol, no. I can tell you as a foreigner that Americans are among the most patriotic people worldwide not in reaction to others, but because they are raised that way.
Everything in your culture is oriented toward patriotism: saluting the flag, public display of flags and national anthem at any possible occasion, favoring american-made products, economical protectionism, more flags, emphasis on national security and terrorism, teaching the pride to be an american, even more flag. Etc...
Very few countries go as far as the US when it comes to national indoctrination in becoming "good patriotic citizen". This has nothing to do with foreigners and everything with your culture, historically, exactly like your gun problem or the general distrust toward the government.
openminded2011
reply to post by brazenalderpadrescorpio
One prime American value, is inclusion. We want to be one people
If that was true, how do you explain the treatment of black people in the south before the 60's?
Inclusion isn't a prime American value. You are raised believing it is but it is not in application. Just like you are raised to believe the American dream is possible for everyone while it's not the case.edit on 15-4-2014 by SpaceGoatFarts because: (no reason given)
Davian
I feel like you're starting to characaturize all Americans as being the same and alike. That's kind of a bigoted assumption, you know? Not all of us believe the American dream is possible. I believe that is exactly what it is, a dream. Then you wake up of course. THAT'S WHEN IT BECOMES A GOAL.