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reply to post by HauntWok
The only thing you've proven is that there are idiots out there and that some of them own firearms. I think we all know this. But are they representative of the whole? No. I could post stats, but we all know the numbers, its a fraction of a percent that are the cause of the problems. That's not to say that the rest are always acting with the utmost safety, but its clear they're generally doing a good job much more often than not or the numbers for reported injuries and fatalities would be much, much higher given the prevalence of firearms and firearms owners in our society.
Guns don't Kill People , People do .
I have to laugh at people posting youtube videos as some sort of proof to support apparent government fascism.
Under the false belief, ' People are just too dumb to own them'.
I also have to laugh at the quoted comment for the simple fact that for every shooting over 299,999,999 guns where not used to shoot anyone.
So you think a small percentage of people means most people?
Since 1982, there have been at least 67 mass shootings across the country, with the killings unfolding in 30 states from Massachusetts to Hawaii. Thirty of these mass shootings have occurred since 2006. Seven of them took place in 2012, and another five occurred in 2013, including in Santa Monica, California, and at the Washington Navy Yard.
We'll since some of you are ok with having our rights f'ed with then let's also have it where we have a bracelet to record our conversation so when the government doesn't like what we say they can pick us up and re-educate us.
There is a middle ground you know. GASP, there I go again, middle ground, how dare I right?
Well, you have to admit, some of these people are pretty stupid, after all some of these people think Obama was born in Kenya and the earth is a little over 6000 years old. So, yea not a lot of intellect here.
And how many nukes does the united states have? A vast majority of those weren't used to kill people either. But two were, and to this day there are still people that are affected by those two bombs
There is no middle ground to be had here.
The constitution is clear.
Amendment II A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. - See more at: www.abovetopsecret.com...
So I guess then the government has to have everyone that owns a firearm enlist in the National Guard and go through 6 weeks of Basic Training in order to keep to the letter of the 2nd Amendment right? If you don't want to be part of the National Guard (the militia as it's understood today) then I guess there is middle ground to be found isn't there?
Na neo, here's the thing. Part and parcel to the 2nd Amendment and the reason that a well REGULATED militia is necessary for the security of a free state is the responsibility of the people
Fact of the matter is, I think that it's a great idea. You want a gun? Fine, show up at this National Guard post for your six weeks of training, and then you'll have to be on base 2 weeks a year, 1 weekend a month. And if there's a national disaster that comes up, guess who gets to do deal with it? That's right YOU!
Frankly I think it's a great middle ground. It provides both for national defense, and allows for individuals to keep their firearms. It also trains people in the proper use and handling of firearms which is desperately needed in this country IMHO.
Literally everyone wins.
Plus, you get to help your community out in times of a natural disaster! And wouldn't you feel good about doing that?
reply to post by vor78
Did I missed something here? we went from tagging with bracelets gun owners to training militia, I guess I fell asleep some where in between.